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James A Dill vs Ravishen Singh
"Quite a Pickle" (game of the day Feb-21-2015)
Olympiad (2008), Dresden GER, rd 4, Nov-16
Sicilian Defense: French Variation. Normal (B40)  ·  0-1

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Feb-21-15
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  Phony Benoni: Not a very imaginative pun, but it does have the merit of being better than the game.

Only in the most unusual circumstances should a game decided by an Almighty Blunder receive serious consideration for GOTD. This is just your ordinary, run-of-the-mill unforced mental whiteout, and both sides should have been spared the embarrassment of seeing it here.

The GOTD is generally being taken much less seriously these days, and this is the sort of game that is turning people off.

Feb-21-15
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  offramp: I see it as a chance for lower-level games to have a team of analysts examine them.
Feb-21-15  shivasuri4: Does 25.Rd3 give White a good chance to hold the game?
Feb-21-15  rickycota: Well, at least they got be at the Olympiad but these is a horrible white scilian game IMO. Not to mention that lifeless ending
Feb-21-15  RookFile: Wow, this one was bad.
Feb-21-15  ajile: Threat tempo- Threat tempo- Threat tempo
Threat (actually finally mercifully 0-1)
Feb-21-15
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  Gilmoy: So ... you're saying this game is not kosher?
Feb-21-15
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  Sneaky: What specifically was the losing move? Obviously 25.Rxd4?? is suicide, but I think the game was over before that.

I don't know much about this variation, but I think the guilty culprit might just be 13.Bb5. I never like to see a piece moved twice in the opening. Maybe what was called for was 13.Qg4, attacking and defending at the same time.

Feb-21-15  morfishine: Dill is an aromatic herb used to enhance the flavor of a wide variety of meats, hot/cold soups, & boiled potatoes. Various worldwide cultures also utilize this resourceful herb in the preparation of sauces, dressings and even wines! And between the 5 - 11th centuries in Anglo-Saxon England, dill was used in many traditional medicines, including those against jaundice, headache, boils, lack of appetite, stomach problems, nausea, liver problems, and many other ills.

BTW: a pickle is actually a cucumber soaked in brine. Who would've known?

Finally, the origin of the word "Dill" is unknown, much like the origin of how this game got chosen as 'GOTD'

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Feb-21-15  Ratt Boy: <Gilmoy>: That was funnier than the pun you based it on. I salute you, Sir.
Feb-21-15  Ratt Boy: <Sneaky>: I don't know what the losing move was, butt I really don't like 12.♘d4. Maybe 12.♗xe5, ♕xe5 13.♕e2 would be much better. It drives for a draw after 13...♕xe2, butt after White's 12th, everything he does looks like a Festival of Ugly.
Feb-21-15
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  Garech: Am I the only one who doesn't get the pun?

-Garech

Feb-21-15
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  playground player: The pun was virtually inevitable.
Feb-21-15
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  AylerKupp: <<morfishine> Finally, the origin of the word "Dill" is unknown, much like the origin of how this game got chosen as 'GOTD'>

Actually, the first part is easy to answer. There are many spices used in pickling cucumbers but the one that is used most extensively is dill. So the nomenclature "dill pickle" is logical.

But I remain stumped about the second part of your question, unless whoever selects the name of the GOTD found the pun too hard to resist.

Feb-21-15
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  TheTamale: <Phony Benoni: Not a very imaginative pun, but it does have the merit of being better than the game.> I lol'ed.

"Garech: Am I the only one who doesn't get the pun?"

Garech, I think it's just that White's name is Dill. Dill pickle... that's the extent of it. Sometimes we miss the pun from expecting something snappier.

Feb-21-15  Smite: These are 2000 ELO rated players. Not exactly a GM game here.
Feb-21-15
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  AylerKupp: <<shivasuri> Does 25.Rd3 give White a good chance to hold the game?>

It all depends on what you consider a "good chance". Stockfish 6 evaluates the position after 25.Rd3 at [-1.35], d=39 after 25...Qb8 26.g3 Qe5+ 27.Kd2 Qf5 28.Ke2 Qe4+ 29.Re3 Qd5 30.Rd3 Qh5+ 31.Kf1 Rxd3 32.cxd3 Qxh2 33.Re1 Qh1+ 34.Ke2 Qd5 35.b3 Qf5 36.Kf1 Rd5 37.Kg2 Rxd3 38.Qe5 g6 (I would think that 38...Qxe5 39.Rxd5 Rc3 would be better) 39.Qxf5 gxf5 40.Rc1 Rd2 41.a4 Rd5 42.Kf1 Kg7 43.Ke2 Kg6 44.Ke3 Kg5 45.Rh1 h6 46.Rc1 h5 47.a5 f4+ 48.gxf4+ Kg4 8/p4p2/4p3/P1pr3p/5Pk1/1P2K3/5P2/

And Black should win by advancing his h-pawn supported by his king and rook.

Feb-21-15
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  AylerKupp: <<Smite> These are 2000 ELO rated players. Not exactly a GM game here.>

In that case, talk about ratings inflation! Are you suggesting that an almost 2100-rated player is not expected to see that after 25.Rxd4, 25...cxd4+ forks king and queen? Even if he had one microsecond left in his clock, with that rating he should have been able to see that. But if an almost 2100-rated player is not expected to see that then maybe Carlsen has reason to be concerned by my almost 50-year old 1800 rating.

Perhaps a more reasonable (?) explanation is that Dill meant to play 25.Rd3 and pushed his rook a little too far, touching Black's Rd4, and so had no choice but to capture it (FIDE Laws of Chess, 4.3.c) . Then again he might have simply been tired of playing the game (and possibly prescient about the upcoming pun) and just simply wanted to stop playing. 25.Rd3 would have probably still lost but it would have taken a lot longer; see my response to <shivasuri> above.

Feb-21-15
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  HeMateMe: It seemed to be a flaccid pickle, on the whole.
Feb-21-15
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  AylerKupp: <HeMateMe> Don't you just hate it when that happens?
Feb-21-15
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  HeMateMe: <AK> Yes, esPESHIALLY when they groan and then whip out something purchased on the Adam and Eve Shopping Network!
Feb-21-15  waustad: Nothing about a ravishing singer I see.
Feb-21-15  shivasuri4: Thanks for the analysis, <AylerKupp>.
Mar-25-15  Smite: <AylerKupp> I suggest that after black played Rd4 playing into the fork was the personable way for Dill to accept his fate and come to terms with resigning
Mar-26-15
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  perfidious: This is a clear case of self-Ravishment.
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