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James Glover Grundy vs Daniel F M Starbuck
"Coffeehouse Player" (game of the day Sep-27-2015)
Casual game (1879), Manhattan Chess Club, NY USA
Italian Game: Two Knights Defense. Polerio Defense Suhle Defense (C59)  ·  0-1



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Aug-15-12  Jacob Arnold: <FSR> hahahaha I see what you did there.
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  thegoodanarchist: <FSR> Coffeehouse Player!
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  Penguincw: < FSR: Coffeehouse chess. >

< "Coffeehouse Player" (game of the day Sep-27-15) >

Looks to be another instance where a user suggests a pun, and something <similar> but not exact gets chosen...

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  FSR: <Penguincw> Close enough. I'm still taking credit for it.
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  andrewjsacks: This game must have been a real eye-opener for Grundy!
Sep-27-15  The Kings Domain: I couldn't help but chuckle at the pun. Chessgames seems to be getting better with it.

Strange game, there's an air of amateurishness to it. Nice ending by black though.

Sep-27-15  the.raven: couldn't white fight on with 26.Ne2?
Sep-27-15  RandomVisitor: 15.g3 is better.
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  Honza Cervenka: <the.raven: couldn't white fight on with 26.Ne2?> Yes, he could. 26.Ne2! Bxf3 27.Nxg1 Bxd5 gives black minimal advantage due to extra Pawn but with reasonable play white should be able to hold it.

Anyway, despite of some mistakes from both sides this was very entertaining game. White could have spared himself of most problems by inserting 15.g3 before grabbing a piece. 17.d4 was another mistake, much better seems to be 17.Qa4!? Nxf4 18.Qxe4 Nxe2 19.Qxe2 Re8 20.d4 f6 21.Bf4 or 17.Bf1, in both cases with quite unclear position. Black should have given the check by Queen on h1 instead of g1, as after 18...Qg1+?! 19.Rf1! Qxg2 20.Qd3 white consolidates his defense while after 18...Qh1+! 19.Rf1(?) Qh4+ white gets mate in 2 moves and 19.Bf1 can be followed by 19...Ba6! 20.Qa4 e2 with decisive attack. Also in the game after 19.Bf1(?), which was a mistake in this case, black could have won immediately with 19...Ba6!

Sep-27-15  Ratt Boy: <the.raven: couldn't white fight on with 26.Ne2?>

Not for long, I think. What's White's counter after 26♗xe2? Seems to me, he still loses the Queen.

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  Honza Cervenka: <Ratt Boy: <the.raven: couldn't white fight on with 26.Ne2?>

Not for long, I think. What's White's counter after 26♗xe2? Seems to me, he still loses the Queen.>

After 26.Ne2 black cannot play 26...Bxe2, as white Queen is still on f3 (see diagram).

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Sep-27-15  TheTamale: I'm afraid I don't get the pun! Can someone please explain?
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  chancho: <TheTamale>
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  offramp: <Sep-27-15 TheTamale: I'm afraid I don't get the pun! Can someone please explain?

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I believe that <TheTamale>, who was born and raised in Seattle, and who won an Hon. Mention at the 2014 World Coffee Tasting Championships - might have has his tongue in his cheek...

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Offramp,

It's a double pun.

William Grundy was silversmith whose seemed to specialised in silver coffee pots in the mid 1700's.

You can buy one here for a mere 2,750.

The chances are that when the game...

T Bowdler vs H Conway, 1788

...was played (the first ever double Rook sac?) both players were being served coffee from a William Grundy coffee pot.

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  thegoodanarchist: <FSR: <Penguincw> Close enough. I'm still taking credit for it.>

Hey, now, that is not appreciated! You have had plenty more puns selected than I have. Now you want to take credit for one of mine? :(

Sep-27-15  TheTamale: <chancho> What is this "Starbuck's" of which they speak?

Ugh, can't believe I missed that. Thanks.

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  offramp: Pope:

<For lo! the board with cups and spoons is crown'd, The berries crackle, and the mill turns round.
On shining altars of Japan they raise
The silver lamp; the fiery spirits blaze.
From silver spouts the grateful liquors glide,
While China's earth receives the smoking tide.
At once they gratify their scent and taste,
And frequent cups prolong the rich repast.>

Sep-27-15  newhampshireboy: This game fits me to a Tea!
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  FSR: <thegoodanarchist> You submitted <Coffeehouse Player>?
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  kevin86: Sharp game! It looked like destiny for black to win!

Maybe the moonlight feels right: Starbuck 1974

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  thegoodanarchist: <FSR: <thegoodanarchist> You submitted <Coffeehouse Player>?>


Here is what happened: I came across one of his games. I immediately thought of the pun, so I clicked on his name and sorted by "Starbuck wins". This is the first game in that list that I looked at. Since it looked like coffeehouse chess, I decided to submit the pun.

But before submitting, I checked the comments, and of course I saw yours first. I thought mine was a bit more appropriate, so I made my reply to you and then submitted the pun. Two days later it was GOTD.

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  MissScarlett: It's like two bald men arguing over a comb.
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  FSR: <thegoodanarchist> Oh, I didn't notice your September 25 comment. Obviously, you get the credit then and I withdraw my claim.
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  thegoodanarchist: < FSR: <thegoodanarchist> Oh, I didn't notice your September 25 comment. Obviously, you get the credit then and I withdraw my claim.>

Very honorable, sir!

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