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|Feb-12-10|| ||chancho: Game of the day, eh Deffi? Congrats.
It's all downhill from here... :-)
|Feb-12-10|| ||Open Defence: <chancho> yeah, I shudder to think when my player page will be home to political discussions ;-p|
|Feb-12-10|| ||chancho: Careful, I might start something.
Although I'm sure you can delete your player page. :-)
|Feb-12-10|| ||suenteus po 147: A little bit of perspective from the black side of the game: I have played <Open Defence> four times now (five?) with this being the most recent game. My last game with the black pieces was an unmitigated disaster, so I promised myself that I would play something solid yet with more opportunities for tactical encounters. When she opened with 1.e4 I thought for a long time about whether a French or Petrov would be the best way to go. I had already tackled with her once in a Sicilian (I was white and lost, badly) and had no wish to do so again so soon, so either 1...e6 or 1...e5 was the way to go from my viewpoint. I no longer play the Caro-Kann and I've never really played the Spanish, so neither was a viable opportunity for me. The problem with the French, for me, is that two approaches work exceedingly well against me most of the time: the Tarrasch (my own preferred approach to combating the French when I'm playing with the white pieces) and the Winawer. I recalled that the Winawer was <Open Defence>'s most common reply to the French, so the Petrov it would be. Of course then she entered into the Nimzowitsch Attack (5.Nc3) which again is my own preferred method of combating the Petrov with the white pieces. Usually, I like to be the one to adopt opening defenses or attacks based on what makes my opponent most uncomfortable, and I must say it is effective since it works on me in my encounters with future-GM Hosea. Anyway, faced with this opening, I utilized the Opening Explorer until such point that <Open Defence> played 8.Bd3 at which point I only had one option left in the OE that offered black an example of winning chances: 8...O-O. From there, of course, the variation 9.Qe2 (not found in this database under any other games but this one) stumped me and my response was less than ideal.|
|Feb-12-10|| ||suenteus po 147: I don't know how interesting or useful this might be, but I'll continue anyway: I played 9...Be6 because I thought it would make my opponent think twice about castling queenside (a danger for black in this variation of the Petrov) and of course it didn't phase her one bit. My thinking was that the bishop couldn't be taken because my a-pawn can race down there before the king can snatch it (or so I had calculated at the time, my notes vanished when the game was completed). What I didn't count on was that my bishop didn't need to be in danger of being taken, it just needed to be out of the way. Anyway, after 10.O-O-O I played ...Bf6 with this idea of opening up the queenside and assaulting the white king with my major pieces bolstered by my bishops. As someone earlier commented, the position now is about speed, and I was too slow. I countered h4 with ...h6 stupidly thinking that I could avoid exchanges. As someone else commented, it was indeed a wasted move. Basically, I played too optimisitcally against a clearly superior opponent. Trusting in plans that had not been properly calculated (especially in a correspondence game) was a sure recipe for suicide and that's exactly what I did here. Anyway, I was so flummoxed by Rdg1 and Ng5 that I couldn't manage the wherewithal to mount even token resistance. Fortunately, the end came swiftly, and Sangeeta's king hunt was masterfully executed. I submitted this and my other games with her only because of her own merit and recognizable skill on the board. If I ever play as well as her, you'll finally see one of my wins submitted to the database, but not before :)|
|Feb-12-10|| ||Open Defence: well I guess it sorta hinged on 11...h6 and 13...Bxa2 you wouldnt be the first player to see ghosts at the board and it still happens to me today even in CC...|
|Feb-12-10|| ||Once: How can I say it? I feel privileged to see such a fine attacking game, and a rare treat to have contributions from both players. Very well played <OD> and thanks to <suenteus po 147> for such magnaminous and helpful comments.|
I take my hat off to both of you!
Where else apart from CG.com would we get something like this? Utterly brilliant.
|Feb-12-10|| ||playground player: It's games like this that convinced me to stop playing the Petroff.|
|Feb-12-10|| ||David2009: This is a fun game. <Peter Fontaine/suenteus po 147> commenting on the position at move 11: |
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(Hosea vs Fontaine 2009, 11?)
<As someone earlier commented, the position now is about speed, and I was too slow. I countered h4 with ...h6 stupidly thinking that I could avoid exchanges.> It is interesting to play the White side against Crafty (on-line link below). Crafty meets h4 with Bxa2 and now White can try either Bxh7+ immediately or after preparing it with b3. In either case Crafty accepts the Bishop and counter-attacks on the Queen side - Peter Fontaine's recipe. In either case White can readily draw by perpetual check, but a win (if one exists) eludes me. Crafty link for the interested reader to try out these variations:
Who says computers play dull chess?
|Feb-12-10|| ||OhioChessFan: I let Fritz 10 chew on 11...Bxa2 all day and at 23 plies it's holding at .34 expecting 12. Ng5 and .30 for 12. b3|
I think the extra tempo is crucial and hence h6 must be the problem. White gets that one extra tempo to swing a Rook to the Kingside and Black has to be a responder instead of an attacker.
|Feb-12-10|| ||Jimfromprovidence: <OD> Just curious, but did you give any thought to playing 16 b3 instead of 16 Qh5?|
If black responds with 16...a5, then you have 17 Rh3.
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|Feb-12-10|| ||Marmot PFL: Looks we have reached the point where the pun is everything, and the quality of the game is irrelevant.|
|Feb-12-10|| ||tpstar: Ever since I met ya (1. e4 e5), seems I can't forget ya (2. Nf3 Nf6)/The thought of you (3. Nxe5 d6) keeps running through (4. Nf3 Nxe4) the back of my mind (5. Nc3 Nxc3)/Every time I'm near ya (6. dxc3 Be7), I get that urge to feel ya (7. Be3 Nc6)/Just touching you (8. Bd3 0-0) and loving you [last book move] makes everything right (9. Qe2 Be6)/Tell me how ya feel baby (10. 0-0-0 Bf6)/I never knew love before (11. h4 h6), then came you (12. Rdg1 Qd7), then came you (13. Ng5 Bxa2)/I never knew love before [13 ... hxg5?? 14. Bh7+ Kxh7 15. hxg5+ Kg8 16. Qh5 ], then came you (14. Nh7 Rfe8??), then came you [14 ... Qe6 15. Qf3 Ne5 16. Nxf6+ Kh8 ], you (15. Nxf6+ gxf6) [ ]/Now that I have found ya (16. Qh5 Kf8), how did I live without ya? [16 ... Ne5 doesn't get the bull off the ice 17. Qxh6 Nxd3+ 18. cxd3 Rxe3 19. Rh3 ]/I don't know baby (17. Bxh6+ Ke7)/It's plain to see (18. b3 a5) you're all I need [18 ... Ne5 desperation 19. Bf5 Qc6 ] to satisfy me (19. Bf5 Qd8)/I'm so darned proud of ya (20. Re1+ Ne5), I wanna sing about ya (21. f4 Ra6)/Sing it sing it sing it baby [21 ... Rg8 22. Rhf1 ]/You ought to know (22. fxe5 dxe5) you made love grow (23. Rxe5+! fxe5) by touching my hand (24. Bg5+ f6)/Oh-uh-oh I never knew love before (25. Qh7+ Kd6), then came you (26. Rd1+ Kc5), then came you (27. Be3+ Kc6)/I never knew love before (28. Bd7+ Qxd7), then came you (29. Qxd7#), then came you (1-0) - Dionne Warwick & the Spinners + Fritz 7, "Then Came You"|
I entered several user games into the Pun Contest last summer, yet none of them made the Top 30. I'll take responsibility for this GOTD & pun, but I disagree that members' games have no teaching value. This was a very nice attack out of a standard Petrov set-up, and several folks liked it enough to save into a Game Collection. So it's all good. =)
|Feb-12-10|| ||Marmot PFL: Well, maybe if you born after '72 you might not know why 13...Bxa2 is a lemon.|
|Feb-12-10|| ||OhioChessFan: L Spinner|
|Feb-12-10|| ||Dr. J: seems to me that 11 ... Bg4 (or 12 ...Bg4) stops White's attack completely; and, if so, 11 h4 was a mistake.|
|Feb-13-10|| ||Richard Taylor: Great king side rip by Sangeeta (Open Defence) !! Like a polar bear mauling a dog to death... a bit vicious!!|
|Feb-13-10|| ||Richard Taylor: Maybe 8 ... Bg4 is better, (possible threat Ne5) with the idea to exchange the B on g6 and even castle Q-side if necessary...?|
|Feb-13-10|| ||Open Defence: <Dr. J: seems to me that 11 ... Bg4 (or 12 ...Bg4) stops White's attack completely; and, if so, 11 h4 was a mistake.> 11...Bg4 12.Bxh7+|
|Feb-13-10|| ||Open Defence: 8...Bg4 9.h3 Be6 10.Qe2 is interesting|
|Feb-14-10|| ||diagonal: Honored as "game of the day" - Congrats to both player:|
<Open Defence> and <suenteus po 147> I liked your commentary and analysis, you light my (sun)day!
Thanks to Chessgames: that was a good choice indeed, there are certainly more interesting encounters between cg.-members... or (simuls) with funny annotations and anectodes between members and our heroes ;-)
|Feb-14-10|| ||Open Defence: < Jimfromprovidence: <OD> Just curious, but did you give any thought to playing 16 b3 instead of 16 Qh5?
If black responds with 16...a5, then you have 17 Rh3.|
> thank you for taking the time to go through our game!
unfortunately I missed 16.b3 which is stronger than 16.Qh5
I was in "Tal" mode and thought only of going after the King.. goes to show that even in CC you need to sit on yer hands sometimes....
|Mar-07-10|| ||OhioChessFan: I realize White was winning, but why wasn't Qh5 best? 16. b3 Ne5 and White still has some work to do after Black gets rid of one of those terrifying Bishops or exchanges Queens.|
|May-13-10|| ||Open Defence: <Ohio> I think after 16.b3 Ne5 then White should not chase the LSB with Kb2 but continue 17.Rh3 with what looks like a winning attack|
16.Rh3 Be6 should also still be winning for White
after 16.Qh5 Black could have tried 16...Rxe3 17.fxe3 Ne5 which would have reduced White's attacking power but should be still winning for White...
I think from an attacking technique point of view 16.Rh3 was probably the most thematic continuation... despite what the engines might say...
|Jan-09-11|| ||Open Defence: i'd like to thank the academy....|
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