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Magnus Carlsen vs Alexander Grischuk
Linares (2009), Linares ESP, rd 12, Mar-05
Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen. Classical Variation (B84)  ·  1-0

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Mar-05-09  SetNoEscapeOn: Carlsen pulled off a very convincing Bobby Fischer impersonation in this game. Very elegant and simply too strong.
Mar-05-09  notyetagm: <Udit Narayan: Mr. Carlsen, you will be the next world champion!!!>

Not if he has to go through Wang Yue.

Carlsen vs Wang Yue, 2009
Wang Yue vs Carlsen, 2009

Mar-05-09  JonathanJ: can someone please explain 22. ... Qe6 to me? why allow carlsen to play Nc5? only to trade off queens?
Mar-05-09  Shams: <Not if he has to go through Wang Yue.>

unlikely at this point, wouldn't you say?

Mar-05-09  tiago henrique: What a player!!! Carlsen is wonderfull
Mar-05-09  Everett: <collodi: Great game. A series of fine razor-sharp moves by Carlsen. Reminds one of Bobby Fischer.>

Funny, it reminds me of Carlsen, or Aronion on a better day.

Mar-05-09  whatthefat: Very strongly played by Carlsen, especially given the importance of the game.
Mar-05-09
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Nice attack!
Mar-05-09  Albertan: I have analyzed this game in depth on my blog at http://albertan1956.blogspot.com/. I hope some of you come by and take a look.Thanks
Mar-05-09  notyetagm: http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...

<It was the Carlsen game that mattered, and what a beauty it was. Just moments after it concluded, <<<Garry Kasparov -- on the line from New Delhi -- exclaimed "Carlsen just won a brilliant game!">>>>

Mar-05-09  Atking: Good and honest job <Albertan>. Still I'm not convinced (as suggest too by GM Anish Giri Chess News Base) that 19...Bg4 was stronger and equalizing. Bb6 controling d8 means White have the d file I think A Karpov's move like 20.Rd2 keeps a kind of small edge which the older champion could torture his opponent for a long.
Mar-06-09  eightsquare: Brilliant!! Just too strong for Grischuk. He (carl) definitely has a hand on linares. <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>
Mar-06-09  dejavu: .44 Magnum special & Alexander the grishucked
Mar-06-09
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  Eyal: In a short post-game interview to Europe Echecs, Carlsen mentions 20.Nd5 as a point at which the game already becomes very difficult for Black, even if he can defend better in some later moves.

Besides 19...Bg4, an earlier point where Black might improve is <16...Be6> instead of Nb4 - clearing the c8 square for the queen in case of Bb6, which makes for a better setup of the Black pieces. A line like 17.Bb6 Qc8 18.Nd5 Bxd5 19.exd5 Nb4 20.c3 e4 21.cxb4 exf3 22.Qxf3 Qd7 (given by Giri) seems to lead to equality.

Another interesting possibility is <16...b6> - a critical line in such a case would be 17.Nd5 Nxd5 18.exd5 Nb4 (18...Na5? 19.Nxa5 bxa5 20.c4! Qxc4 21.Bh5) 19.c3 Nd3 20.Qd2 and now either 20...Qc4 or Nf4.

Mar-06-09  samikd: Beautiful game ! Reminds me another game in the same line Anand vs Kasparov, 1995
Mar-06-09  shintaro go: Schveningen is sometimes too passive
Mar-06-09  parisattack: <shintaro go: Schveningen is sometimes too passive>

I don't think the plan with ...Re8 is in the spirit of the Scheveningen. Better ...Bd7, allow e5, use e8 for a the knight retreat. I believe Smyslov was the first to essay the ...Re8 idea.

Mar-06-09
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  Eyal: <I don't think the plan with ...Re8 is in the spirit of the Scheveningen [...] I believe Smyslov was the first to essay the ...Re8 idea.>

Apparently it was introduced by players like Ribli and Ulf Andersson in the mid-70s (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...). At any rate, it was a favorite of Kasparov, who knew a thing or two about this opening... (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...)

Mar-06-09  parisattack: I most happily defer to Kasparov :) - But I would still play ...Bd7.
Mar-06-09
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  chancho: Man oh man. Brilliant!
Mar-06-09  parisattack: And, in any event my memory has failed me (again). The closest I find is Tal-Smyslov Bled 1959 with a ...Re8, ...Bf8 in a Scheveningen (of sorts).
Mar-06-09  blacksburg: <I don't think the plan with ...Re8 is in the spirit of the Scheveningen.>

i've seen a few video commentaries on ICC that say that ...Re8 is a common idea in the scheveningen. but who knows why? can anyone explain this? i've never been able to figure it out, and that famous K-K match game in this line is way over my head. :(

this is why i play 1...e5.

Mar-06-09  parisattack: <blacksburg: <I don't think the plan with ...Re8 is in the spirit of the Scheveningen.> i've seen a few video commentaries on ICC that say that ...Re8 is a common idea in the scheveningen. but who knows why? can anyone explain this? i've never been able to figure it out, and that famous K-K match game in this line is way over my head. :( this is why i play 1...e5.>

Per<eyal> it is a fairly new idea - although see also the mentioned Tal-Smyslov game. I think Kotov played it once or twice, also. I studied the Scheveningen heavily in the 70s and per my old and weak chess thinking it is not in the spirit of the variation. Euwe mentions it in a footnote in the 10-Part series he did for Chess Review in 1949. I assume its in Kasparov's Scheveningen book, but I don't have that handy for reference. Either way, not very impressive play by Grischuk.

You are right - 1. ...e5 easier to figure. :)

Mar-06-09
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  kamalakanta: <samikd: Beautiful game ! Reminds me another game in the same line Anand vs Kasparov, 1995>

This other game by Anand is not iin the same line, but it is a game in which ...Re8 also does not fit in...

Anand vs I Sokolov, 1992

Mar-06-09
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  kamalakanta: Another nice game by Anand against Topalov in this variation (started out as a Taimanov, but transposed to Schveningen)

Anand vs Topalov, 1996

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