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Jacob Altusky vs Robert James Fischer
Offhand game (1954), New York, NY USA, Dec-??
Spanish Game: Morphy Defense. Modern Steinitz Defense (C71)  ·  0-1

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Mar-10-10
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  beenthere240: I wonder how gracious Bobby was. Or if he brayed with laughter.
Mar-10-10  Uros Jankovic: "Patriot"

That would be a counting mistake (white is down a piece). Play might continue: 10...Nf6 11.Qd1 (11.Qh3 Nxc2+ 12.Kd1 Nd4 13.f3) 11...b4 stopping a c3 trap. There's no sense going very deep into this, however, since white has no compensation for losing a piece.

I still believe that two pawn for a piece and semi open f file offer some counterplay. Wouldn´t mind playing white against you in that position. Thanks for your comment...

Mar-10-10  Quentinc: Well, this sure spoiled me. A medium easy and nothing I tried for White worked -- I was sure I was overlooking something ridiculously obvious. Since Fischer was only around 11 when this was played, I didn't see that as any reason to conclude that this was a spoiler.
Mar-10-10  Patriot: <Uros Jankovic> I stated there was no compensation for the piece, which is incorrect. As you say white has two pawns for a piece, but two pawns generally isn't enough compensation unless there is dynamic potential. Otherwise, if black can avoid complications he should eventually win.
Mar-10-10  awfulhangover: Hehe, it's wednesday, and after a short while I gave up. Found nothing and felt stupid. Puh..., it WAS nothing!
Mar-10-10  ruzon: Someone subscribe me to dzechiel@wellwishers.com! As someone who works in vision (computer, not human), I clearly appreciate its importance. Get well soon, David.
Mar-10-10  turbo231: <benjinathan: cue a thousand posts which shows positions were Rybka couldn't solve the puzzle>

Please forgive my ignorance but how does one cue a post for that,or cue a post in general? I would be very interested in those puzzles,it would give me something to do. I enjoy projects of that nature.

Mar-10-10  johnlspouge: Wednesday (Medium/Easy)

J Altusky vs Fischer, 1954 (7.?)

White to play and win.

Material: Even. The Black Ke8 has 2 legal moves. The White Bb3 attacks f7, so the pin of the Black Bg4 on Nf3 might be broken by check. The combination is a boomerang, however, because Black has a resource, so White should play a developing move, e.g., 7.Be3.

Candidates (7.): Bxf7+

7.Bxf7+ Kxf7 8.Ng5+

Now, the boomerang:

8…Qxg5 9.Bxg5 Bxd1 10.Kxd1

Black has N for P. On move 9, other moves just leave Black up B for P.

Mar-10-10  WhiteRook48: 7 Bxf7+??
i chose 7 Nxe5?? stupidly, the idea was 7...Bxd1 8 Bxf7+ Ke7 9 Nxc6+ Kxf7 10 Nxd8+ Rxd8 11 Kxd1. I overlooked 7...Nxe5
Mar-10-10  patzer2: <Turbo231> I think the suggestion is to do a search on Kibitz (button above) here to look for games and "positions Rybka had difficulty solving."

Also, you might look at the neat description provided by User: zanshin on his profile for a summary of the kinds of positions Chess programs generally have difficulty solving.

Mar-10-10  turbo231: <patzer2>

Thank you very much, this could get interesting.

Mar-10-10  Steffen23: I have solved the puzzle. The correct move is Bg5. [Event "Offhand Game"] [Event "Offhand Game"]
[Site "New York, USA"]
[Date "1954.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jacob Altusky"]
[Black "Robert James Fischer"]
[Result "0-1" (1-0)]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[ECO "C71"]
[EventDate "?"]
[PlyCount "16"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 d6 5.d4 b5 6.Bb3 Bg4 7.Bxf7+ (7.Bg5 f6 8.dxe5 fxg5 9.exd6 Bxd6 10.Qd5 Qd7 11.Nxg5 Nf6 12.0-0 (12.Qf7+ Qxf7 13.Bxf7+ Kf8))
7...Kxf7 8.Ng5+ Qxg5
1-0

Mar-10-10  Steffen23: Addendum: White now has compensation for its bishop with the winning of 3 pawns
Mar-10-10  CitricAcid13: Steffen23, 7.Bg5 loses to 7...Bxc3 (8. Bxd8 Bxd1 and black is up a piece). Taking the bishop on f3 with the pawn or the queen gives up the bishop on g5 to the queen. 0-1
Mar-10-10  BraveUlysses: I got sucked in by this one, sneaky CG! Nice one. But only because it was presented as an "Easy/medium" puzzle... The hint was in the 'medium' bit- if it was just the classic "B takes, N check discovers the QxB" wheeze it would hardly have been more the "easy" would it?
Dec-28-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  kingfu: If I was Altusky, I would change my name to NN!
Dec-16-11  Albion 1959: Amazing that an offhand blitz game by a 10 or 11 year old Fischer in 1954, that lasted only 8 moves, should attract so many comments and the subject of so much analysis !!
Dec-16-11  ughaibu: Have you read the comments? There's nothing amazing about it, it's exactly as one would expect.
Dec-16-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <gofer: I looked at this in the morning and wrote the following ...

7 dxe5 dxe5
8 Qxd8+ Rxd8
9 Ng5

===
...which I saved to a .txt file and gave up for the day...>

9...Rd1 is mate.

Dec-16-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Jacob Altusky didn't expect the queen taking the knight.
Feb-17-12  ArtsewS: I made a Youtube vid out off this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GseM...
Jul-28-12  cyrusmari: After 8.Ng5 Qxg5+...
9.Bxg5 Be7 10.Qxg4 Nxd4 11.Na3 Ne6 12.Bxe7 Nxe7 13.O-O-O g6 14.g3 h5 15.Qf3+ Kg7 16.h4 Rhf8 17.Qe3 Nd5 18.Rxd5
Apr-06-17  MrJafari: Interesting. You can always expect a shocking move from Fischer!
Feb-27-20  Delilah: Looked like most of my games, of course I am on the losing side lol!
Mar-08-23  VerySeriousExpert: The analysis of this game is given in the new analytical research by Yury V. Bukayev ' Bobby Fischer, His Ultra-Short Game & The New View ' (March 08, 2023) at jeromegambit.blogspot.com ! Moreover, Yury Bukayev shows there his SENSATIONAL idea on how could Jacob Altusky win this game or/and make it immortal! There is an excellent new 'scientific' chess anecdote at the end of this research!!
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