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Gata Kamsky vs Magnus Carlsen
Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2009) (rapid), Nice FRA, rd 1, Mar-14
Sicilian Defense: Dragon. Classical Variation Battery Variation (B73)  ·  1-0

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Mar-14-09  Marmot PFL: The Classical dragon gives white at most a minimal endgame edge but that is where Kamsky is at his beat.
Mar-14-09  arnaud1959: Well, some things still doesn't change. Like, Kamsky beating Carlsen.
Mar-15-09  znprdx: 28.Kg1!! what a move - 20 moves later it turns to be the winner <


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28.Qxd6?? Rd7 29.Qg3 Rx[R]d1 30.Rx[R]d1 Ne4! and the pseudo Philidor mate threat picks up the queen because 31. Qe5 Nf7+ 32.Kg1 Nh3++ etc. is the real thing

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  Eyal: <28.Qxd6?? Rd7 29.Qg3 Rx[R]d1 30.Rx[R]d1 Ne4! and the pseudo Philidor mate threat picks up the queen because 31. Qe5 Nf7+ 32.Kg1 Nh3++ etc. is the real thing>

But instead of 29.Qg3?? White can simply play Qe5 in this line; so the winning move for Black is actually 28...Ne4! immediately, gaining the exchange after 29.Qd4 Qxd4 30.Nxd4 (Rxd4 leads to mate on f1) Nf2+ and Nxd1.

Mar-17-09  andrewleef1: wheres the win?
Mar-17-09  wanabe2000: <andrewleef1> 50.Qf2 and it looks like the K+P ending is a win for white.
Mar-17-09  Bons92: <wanabe2000:50.Qf2 and it looks like the K+P ending is a win for white.> It isn't a win for White. For example,50...Qxf2+ 51.Kxf2 Ke7 52.Ke3 Kxd7 53.Kd3 Kd6 and White can't keep the opposition with Kd4
Mar-17-09  WhiteRook48: I thought 50 Qf2 won.
Mar-17-09  wanabe2000: <Bons92> White plays 52.d8=Q first to gain an important tempo.
Mar-18-09  symsec: 50 Qd3! Qd8 (50...Qg5 leads to nowhere but extra tempo for white's king towards the center) 51 Qd6!! ( Not 51 Qd5 Ke7 52 Qc5 Kd7 53 Qd5 Kc8 54 Qd8 Kd8 55 Kf2 Kd7 56 Kes Kc6 57 Kd4 Kd6 58 Kc4 Kc6 =)Qg5 52 Kf2 Qf5 53 Ke3 and black will run out of check.
Mar-18-09  ajile: <arnaud1959: Well, some things still doesn't change. Like, Kamsky beating Carlsen.>

It's only 6-4. Not that bad when you consider Carlsen's age.

<Gata Kamsky beat Magnus Carlsen 6 to 4, with 6 draws>

Mar-18-09  frogbert: <28.Kg1!! what a move - 20 moves later it turns to be the winner>

get real, please :o)

in the diagram position, black is practically winning after 28... re7! so there's nothing fantastic about 28. kg1 at all. if anything, it's objectively a weak move.

carlsen lost this game due spending too much time early on in the (rapid) game - that was his biggest mistake.

also, the position after 44. d6 appears to be a draw after the cool 44... qxb3! instead it followed

44.. kf7?
45. qe7+ kg6
45. qe6+? (allows kg5 with a draw)
45... kg7? (and white wins again)

but being down to no time and 10 secs increment is pretty hopeless in tricky queen end games (with a knight too, in the beginning), so when carlsen failed to exploit his better position as black, he stepped wrong in time pressure.

<<some things still doesn't change. Like, Kamsky beating Carlsen.>

It's only 6-4. Not that bad when you consider Carlsen's age. >

that 2 win difference stems from the rapid play-off for 9th place in the 2005 wcc, played a couple of days after carlsen turned 15, at a time carlsen was rated 2570. carlsen lost the rapid play-off 2-0, and hence the 2nd loss came in a so-called must-win situation - and carlsen went all in and lost. :o)

in classical chess, they've played 6 games, and the score is +2 -1 =3 in kamsky's favour, despite two more white games for carlsen. kamsky's latest win in a classical game, was in the wcc semi-final in november 2007, when both were rated 2714.

if one relies on kamsky beating carlsen as one of the few constant, non-changing and sanity-saving factors in the universe, one might be headed for a rough ride. :o)

[ps - the blindfold game carlsen-kamsky played a couple of hours before this game ended 1-0 iirc ...]

Mar-18-09  310metaltrader: Please post the king moves after the queen exchange?
Mar-18-09  frogbert: <in classical chess, they've played 6 games, and the score is +2 -1 =3 in kamsky's favour, despite two more white games for carlsen.>

correction - forgot corus this year, so it's actually +2 -1 =4 in classical games.

my only "concern" here, is that carlsen has only managed to draw in his 4 latest white classical games against kamsky. but i guess i can live with that... ;o)

Mar-20-09  wanabe2000: <Bons92> You are correct. No win with 50.Qf2. Black always can grab the opposition and draw. <symsec> Thanks for showing the win with 50.Qd3!
Oct-08-09  tonyboy: what goes after 44. ... g3 instead of Kf7??
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