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Nov-26-13
 | | offramp: I don't understand the Game of the Day title, <Going Rogoff>. Is it a play on «going off»? |
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Nov-26-13
 | | Phony Benoni: <offranp> Probably "Going Rogue", slang for taking off in an authorized direction on one's own initiative. It's also the title of a book issued under the name of a Russia visionary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_... |
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Nov-26-13
 | | WannaBe: This was never game of the Day on April 1st? |
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| Nov-26-13 | | wouldpusher: The key move here was 3. ♘g1!!, which ensures the draw several moves later. |
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| Nov-26-13 | | Moszkowski012273: Ugh.... Can't believe I just played through this. |
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| Nov-26-13 | | Jazzer32: On the third day Huebner and Rogoff played another game, I'm copying (translating) this from "Sahovska Citanka" book written by famous Yugoslav chess journalist Dimitrije Bjelica (comments are also his): 1. c4 (Huebner obviously likes that move)
1. ...Nf6
2.Nf3, g6 (Sajtar is finally happy, everything is played by the chess theory) 3. Ng1 (but.... White changed his mind. Audience is laughing, Arbiter is angry) 3. ...Bg7 (at least Black plays normally, thibks arbiter) 4.Qa4 (theoretical novelty)
4... 0-0
5.Qxd7 (despite black pawn is defended 4 times, white sacrifices his queen. Black had threat to develop that pawn on d5, so white prevents this by sacrificing his queen. Philidor was right: The pawns are the soul of the chess) 5... Qxd7 (After long thinking Black captures by Queen, because of great threat Qxd2) 6. g4 (Great move, White controls f5 and h5 and opens diagonal for his rook) 6... Qxd2 (Another great sacrifice. White must capture queen because of check. Spectators are around table, reporters, cameramen... This is the game for history) 7.Kxd2 (White captures with his King. One GM in audience explains it: Huebner is a big fan of Steinitz, who was player which treated King as very strong piece) 7... Nxg4 (Prevents white's maneuver Kc3 and Kb4)
8.b4 (Cunning trap.. after eventually 8. ...Bxa1, Bishop would be trapped with 9.Bb2 and 10.Nc3) 8... a5 (Black, of course doesn't fall in trap and blocks b4 where White wanted to put his King) 9.a4 (prevents b5)
9... Bxa1 (Fatal mistake, Black doesn't find the way) 10.Bb2 (Black didn't predicted this. Awesome move!! White took most important diagonal with idea to remove pawns on h2 and h7 and then Rh8#) 10.... Nc6 (Black foresees white's idea and hurries with his knight to defend h8) 11. Bh8 (In between move because of ...Bb2)
11....Bg7 (prevents moving of white bishop)
12.h4 (continuation of Rh8# plan)
12..axb4
After this move white doesn't have good square to develop his knight so Huebner offered draw and Rogoff accepted.But... Referee, again, doesn't have understanding for this masterpiece, and order them to play new game. Next day Huebner didn't show up and Rogoff won 1 point. |
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| Nov-26-13 | | deeeeeepa: tricky drawn offer....white shouldnt accept it |
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Nov-26-13
 | | perfidious: My feelings on seeing this game reappear:
Lovely To See You-Moody Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T6... |
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| Nov-26-13 | | PaulLovric: is this an April fools joke? |
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Nov-26-13
| | offramp: Nowadays they'd have to play another 18 moves before the draw could be agreed. |
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| Nov-26-13 | | morfishine: Try as I might, I am unable to summon any sympathy for Huebner and his childish actions, no matter how tired he was. |
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| Nov-26-13 | | sfm: <I was not yet ready to rattle down some cliche moves in in idotic manner to sell them as chess to the readers of the bulletin and the public, to cover up substance with appearance.> I have much respect for that opinion, which reminds me of a badminton game at the Olympics, where players deliberately played to lose. I found it OK, as the alternative would be an unworthy faking, pretending to "miss" returns. It is the fault of the organizers if it comes to your disadvantage if you win the game. Don't force anyone to put up a tirade. |
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Nov-26-13
 | | kevin86: Joe Garigiola:Baseball is a funny game
Me:this is a funny game. I guess if both sides play to lose and a draw is in favor of the weaker player-then both players win:lol |
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| Nov-26-13 | | backrank: I will try out that variation myself next time ;) |
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Nov-26-13
 | | Domdaniel: There *are* quite a few similar games -- just not the kind of similarity that the system recognizes. For instance, Huebner played an equally silly pseudo-game against Miles. |
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Nov-26-13
| | Domdaniel: OK, maybe not *equally* silly ... Miles vs Huebner, 1985 |
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Nov-26-13
 | | Check It Out: GOTD?? |
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| Nov-26-13 | | Mudphudder: Would have been funnier if Rogoff declined the draw thereafter... |
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| Nov-26-13 | | dark.horse: Not exactly an instructive game. |
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| Nov-26-13 | | thegoodanarchist: blech |
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Nov-26-13
 | | Richard Taylor: They missed this game:
Play it quickly it is beautiful. This was game 200,389 of the match Huebner vs. Rogoffski 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nd4 Nd5 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. Ne4 Ne5 5. Ng5 Nb6 6. Nb3 Ng6 7. Nh3
Ne5 8. Nf4 Ng4 9. Nh3 Nh6 10. Nd4 Nd5 11. Nb5 Nc3 12. Na3 Na4 13. Nc4 Nc5
14. 1/2 1/3
Add, variants of the above.
[There is a real game played by a couple of +2000 players that started something like this as a joke I think...] |
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Nov-26-13
| | Richard Taylor: I missed the next game, ie game 200,390:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nd4 Nd5 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. Ne4 Ne5 5. Ng5 Nb6 6. Nb3 Ng6 7. Nh3
Ne5 8. Nf4 Ng4 9. Nh3 Nh6 10. Nd4 Nd5 11. Nb5 Nc3 12. Na3 Na4 13. Nc4 Nc5
14. Na3 Na6 15. Nb5 Nb4 16. Nf4 Nf5 17. Nd4 Nd5 18. Nfe6 Nde3 19. Nc6 Nd4
20. Nc5 Ndf5 21. Nd4 Ng4 22. Nd3 Nd6 23. Nc5 Ne5 24. Na6 Nec4 25. Nb4 Na3
26. Nb5 Nb1 27. Nc6 Nf5 28. Nb8 Nh4 29. Nc3 Nf5 30. Nd5 Nh6 31. Nf4 Nf5 32.
Nh3 Nh6 33. Nf4 Nf5 34. Nh3 Nc3 35. Nc6 Nb1 36. Nb8 Na3 37. Nc6 Nb1 38. Nb4
Nc3 39. Nc6 Nb5 40. Nb4 Nc3 41. Nc6 Ne4 42. Ne5 Nc5 43. Nc4 Na4 44. Na5 Nc5
45. Nc4 Na6 46. Na3 Nb8 47. Nb1 Nh4 48. Nf4 Nf5 49. Nd5 Nd4 50. Ne3 Ne6 51.
Nd5 Nd4 52. Nf4 Nf5 53. Nh3 Nh6 54. Ng1 Ng8 55. Nh3 Nh6 56. Ng1 Ng8
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Nov-26-13
| | Richard Taylor: But I feel that Huebner and Roggoff played the greatest masterpiece of chess history. Rubinstein and Kasparov would be deeply sad to see themselves shown as weakos by this wonderful play... Wonderful...wonderful...such beauty, depth and such precision. |
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Nov-28-13
| | Domdaniel: <Richard Taylor> You typed that game out, Richard? Uh, who indulged in the greater waste of time, you or Huebner? (Even allowing for the fact that he was on a minor world stage, and you aren't...) |
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Feb-15-15
 | | gezafan: This prearranged draw reflects badly on both players. |
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