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Fred Dewhirst Yates vs Aron Nimzowitsch
Hamburg (1910), Hamburg GER, rd 10, Jul-29
Caro-Kann Defense: Bronstein-Larsen Variation (B16)  ·  0-1



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Jun-24-19  lost in space: I love Mondays!

57...Rd1+ 58. Qxd1 (only move) Qa2+ 59. Kc1 Ba3#

Jun-24-19  R4f43l L3 M4550n: Not very easy it is mate in four! ;)
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  Bobby Spassky: 57...Rd1+ 58. Qxd1 (only move) Qa2+ 59. Kc1 Ba3#

No. 60. Bb2 QxB#

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  agb2002: Black is two pawns up.

The white queen controls a2. Hence, 56... Rd1+ 57.Qxd1 Qa2+ 58.Kc1 Ba3+ 59.Bb2 Qxb2#.

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  agb2002: I meant 57... Rd1+, etc.
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  patzer2: Today's Monday solution 57...Rd1+ 58. Qxd1 Qa2+ 59. Kc1 Ba3+ 60 Bb2 Qxb2# seems obvious.

P.S.: For a White improvement, I'd ditch the passive 16. Ng2?! = and go for 16. Bg5 ± instead.

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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Sometimes played 4...Nf6 and 5...gxf6 out of sheer boredom in tournaments. Won every time, but honestly don't know why. Maybe it was the sheer strangeness.
Jun-24-19  Cheapo by the Dozen: Not quite the usual; rather, rook diverts queen.

(The queen sac fails because, as my old chess teacher and former California State Champion Arthur Spiller used to say, bishops move backwards.)

Jun-24-19  saturn2: I saw 57...Rd1+ 58. Qxd1 Qa2+ 59. Kc1 Ba3+ 60. Bb2 Qxb2#
Jun-24-19  stacase: I thought it was 59...Ba3# but after reading the comments, I see that White can interpose with the Bishop 60.b2 and it then follows 60...Qxb2#. Doesn't matter White saw that the interposition of the the Bishop didn't work and tipped his king over.

<Cheapo by the Dozen ... Arthur Spiller used to say, bishops move backwards.)>

Ha ha ha ha! Yes, and I've said that too after I've lost because they can move backwards.

Jun-24-19  drollere: 57...Rd1+, 58. Qxd1 Qa2+, 59. Kc1 Ba3+, 60. Bb2 Qxb2#

thank you, QN pawn ...

Jun-24-19  NBZ: A little surprised at how easily White collapsed after 47. ... Be7, when the position looks defensible. 48. Be5?! is a step in the wrong direction, when the simple 48. Rh1 does the job. The big mistake was 51. a4 which makes Black's c4 an extremely powerful break. It seems White completely underestimated how strong Black's attack would be (which is odd given the earlier course of the game when White's king was consistently under pressure).
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  malt: 57...Rd1+ 58.Q:d1 Qa2+ 59.Kc1 Ba3+
60.Bb2 Q:b2#
Jun-24-19  TheaN: <Cheapo by the Dozen: (The queen sac fails because, (...) bishops move backwards.)>

Not seeing it even if he can't :>. The key is the overload on d1, not necessarily that a White piece can move to b2. Lets remove Be5 for the heck of it.

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Ie 57....Rd1+ 58.Qxd1 Qa2+ 59.Kc1 Ba3# but alas:

57....Qb2+? accomplishes nothing. 58.Kxb2 +-

57....Qa1+ 58.Kxa1 Bd4+ blocks the rook, 58....Kb1 +-

57....Qc1+? seems interesting but after 58.Kxc1 Ba3+ 59.Kb1 (note that now there's simply a bishop on a3 instead of the queen) +- we still don't have Rd1+.

57....Qa2+?! 58.Qxa2 Rd1+ 59.Kb2 and Black has no control over both b2 and b3, so bxa2 is the only win. But that's because I removed Be5 :>

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  thegoodanarchist: < lost in space: I love Mondays!

57...Rd1+ 58. Qxd1 (only move) Qa2+ 59. Kc1 Ba3#>

Except 59...Ba3 is NOT mate. Checkmate comes after 60.Bb2

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  patzer2: <NBZ>< The big mistake was 51. a4 which makes Black's c4 an extremely powerful break.> Right! Instead of 51. a4?, 51. Rxg6 a5 52. Qc6 = to ⩱ (-0.09 @ 21 ply, Stockfish analysis of move 52.?) gives White good drawing chances.
Jun-24-19  Hodor: Game ends after <57 ...Rd1+ 58. Qxd1 Qa2+ 59. Kc1 Ba3+ 60. Bb2 Qxb2# >
Jun-24-19  drollere: <The key is the overload on d1>

There's no "overload" on d1: one piece attacks, one piece defends. the "key" is the fact that the white Q must defend the second rank. put the Q on f3, where it still defends d1, and it's mate in two.

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  Pedro Fernandez: 57.Qe2 was an inferior move. That's why <chrisowen> makes mention of the move 57.Qxb3

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which, lamentably, saves white neither (and, of course, <Chris> knows that). White can't save its important f2-pawn, so the powerful linked black pawns on center-kingside are enough to win.

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  chrisowen: <Pedro Fernandez> Better believe and of course it is trouble.
Jun-24-19  jinkinson: Saw up until Ba3+ which I didn't see until clicking on the game. I was planning on 59. ...b2+ and didn't realize until later that the bishop can just take the pawn.
Jun-24-19  cunctatorg: This game is much more interesting from the positional point of view, in fact it's a positional gem who culminated naturally at this elementary but convincing combination; White already was "under (in?) ball and chain"...
Jun-24-19  zb2cr: A forced mate in 4. 57. ... Rd1+; 58. Qxd1, Qa2+; 59. Kc1, Ba3+; 60. Bb2, Qxb2#.
Jun-24-19  drollere: <That's why chrisowen makes mention of the move 57.Qxb3>

wow. the rest of us have blocked <chrisowen> as a purveyor of trolling. you actually annotate him!

Jun-25-19  I Like Fish: wow I am bindazzled by this news...
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