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Magnus Carlsen vs Vladimir Kramnik
Dortmund Sparkassen (2009), Dortmund GER, rd 3, Jul-04
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Classical Variation (E32)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Jul-04-09  acirce: Too bad, didn't become much of a game. Carlsen was probably outprepared and so he went for a pragmatic draw. I have no problem with that but of course we had all expected something more.
Jul-04-09  percyblakeney: The question is what improvements there may exist instead of the repetition.
Jul-04-09  Perley: I really hope Carlsen doesn't suck out here. :(
Jul-04-09  Perley: oops I spoke too late!
Jul-04-09  PinnedPiece: Draw.
Jul-04-09
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  ketchuplover: another game please. thank you :)
Jul-04-09
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Jul-04-09  AgentRgent: <Softpaw: Carlsen managed to get a draw!!> Don't you know, whenever there's a draw, it's Kramnik's fault! In fact Kramnik's even responsible for a draw I played yesterday!
Jul-04-09  Chessmensch: Awful! For shame!
Jul-04-09  malthrope: Goodness! ~lol~ I hardly had time to finish my cereal... ;)
Jul-04-09  acirce: Exactly <AgentRgent>. Most players would have avoided gxf6, going for dynamic compensation for the knight... but Drawnik of course allows the perpetual as the Drawnik he is.
Jul-04-09  rogge: Told ya.

Looking forward to more whining...

Jul-04-09  waustad: The other games are a Ruy Lopez - Berlin and a Caro-Kann.
Jul-04-09  parisattack: <acirce: Exactly <AgentRgent>. Most players would have avoided gxf6, going for dynamic compensation for the knight... but Drawnik of course allows the perpetual as the Drawnik he is.>

WT...? I looked in 10 minutes ago and thought 'Wow, a Nimzo-Indian and an unblanaced position. Maybe a new Kramnik!'

NOT good for classical chess...

Jul-04-09  Knight13: Yeah pretty messed up.
Jul-04-09  acirce: <parisattack> I hope you do understand it was a joke... All theory, btw. It's already been played in Erdos-Saric 2008 but with 14.Qg4+ Kh8 15.Rd2 Nc6 and then White going for the perpetual although taking a few more moves, throwing in Ng5 too.
Jul-04-09
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  whiteshark: <AgentRgent: <Don't you know, whenever there's a draw, it's Kramnik's fault! In fact Kramnik's even responsible for a draw I played yesterday!>> LOL, more worse he is responsible for all draws that have been played and also for all draws that will ever be played from now on.
Jul-04-09  Chess Carnival: It is my dream to shake hands with Drawnik someday... lol ;)
Jul-04-09
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  whiteshark: Well, after this 3 round game Carlsen is still leading with .5 points and with Naiditsch and Bacrot he's having the 'easiest' schedule until the end.
Jul-04-09  drnooo: This game is no reflection on Krammnik at all. The mirror has to be held up to Carlsen entirely. And from here it seems that Carlsen is clearly afraid of Krammnik. This is not his style to go into such early draws, unless he was not aware that this was a prepared line, otherwise we have to assume he wanted no part of Krammnik. It seems to me that still the two best players of chess on the planet right now are Krammnik and Anand. Carlsen knows it. Its that simple.
Jul-04-09  rogge: A lot has changed since your post during Linares (March 1st), I can tell:

<drnooo:... right now Carlsen could just be the best player on the planet, Topo Anand notwithstanding>.

Jul-04-09  Gambitor: Carlsen had a 0.5 point lead. I think he made the right move with his short draws against Leko and Kramnik. Some people has to understand that competitive chess is not about playing beautiful games, but winning tournaments. Its impossible to play for a win every single game and at the same time have good torunament results (even kasparov made these boring draws) If in the second half of the tournament, Carlsen need to get the full point from Leko and Kramnik, he will play for a win for sure, but it is better to take risks against, for example,Jakovenko and Naidistch who are may be 70 or 80 points overrated... think about it.
Jul-04-09  acirce: What's up with the "Krammnik" spelling anyway? I don't know if that one is better or worse than "Kramnick"..
Jul-04-09  rogge: Right...

Anyway, I'd say in a tournament between Topalov, Anand, Carlsen, Aronian and Kramnik to decide who's "best", any one of them could win. (Even though I can't remember a great tournament performance by Kramnik since Tal Memorial 2007)

Jul-04-09  percyblakeney: <I'd say in a tournament between Topalov, Anand, Carlsen, Aronian and Kramnik to decide who's "best", any one of them could win. (Even though I can't remember a great tournament performance by Kramnik since Tal Memorial 2007)>

It's been quite a while since Kramnik played well (with his standards), losing points in every event after Tal Memorial 2007. 12 draws in the last 13 (most of them against much lower rated opponents), and one win against Short. It may change already tomorrow, but he hasn't felt really sharp since 2007.

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