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Hikaru Nakamura vs Peter Svidler
Rising Stars - Experience (2009), Amsterdam NED, rd 10, Aug-31
Indian Game: Anti-Grünfeld. Alekhine Variation (D70)  ·  0-1

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Aug-31-09
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  JointheArmy: These are the kinds of games I love to see. Nakamura is finally punished for his style by a Super GM. Expect more of the same when you mess the big boys.
Aug-31-09  returnoftheking: <luzhin: Great tactical display by Svidler: if the colours were reversed we would be hearing no end of praise for Nakamura.> Actually there are not that many delusional Naka fans on this site, most fans have quite a reasonable view of the player and here he is not hyped like Carlsen and So f.e. There are more comments that are a bit smirky about Naka. It's clear he was not playing his usual game, and he didn't lose because he played the "big boys"- guys like Ljubo made easy work of him too. Being ill, out of form, bad tournament situation are more likely explanations. Especially when you consider the quality of his games -first his very interesting game against Ljubo and going downhill from there.

As for his blogging I rather appreciate it - a short break is understandable enough given the circumstances.

Aug-31-09  kingsindian2006: if naka can't even hang with svidler , he has no chance against the big boys... Naka's fans arent delusional they just make excuses for him.
Aug-31-09  returnoftheking: Svidler is one of the < big boys >
Aug-31-09  Jim Bartle: I agree.
Sep-01-09  shintaro go: <24. Re1 is a mistake but Ng4 is pretty>

and 31. d7 was the final mistake. Naka can take solace that it's all over now.

Sep-01-09  Whitehat1963: I thought Nakamura might have been ready to join the ranks of the elite. I know one game doesn't mean all that much, but Svidler just kicks the ever-loving @#$% out of him here!
Sep-01-09  paavoh: <rotk> <"Svidler is one of the < big boys >"> Indeed he is. CG lists Svidler-Nakamura games +5 =2 -0 for Svidler. Only time will tell if Nakamura can reach AND stay on the same level.
Sep-01-09  Whitehat1963: Speaking of the "big boys," FIDE's new ratings list is out:

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...

Sep-01-09
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  whiteshark: "After he had defeated Hikaru Nakamura with the black pieces, a relieved Peter Svidler commented <I’m happier now>, obviously referring to the loss he suffered yesterday.

In the opening, with the slightly unusual 3.f3, Nakamura tried to lure him into a repeat of a game Svidler had played against Motylev, but having no wish to do so, the Russian Champion came up with the <inspired 3...Nc6>.

<‘After this move I had no idea, but it looked interesting.’> A complicated struggle ensued in which Black went for very sharp play with <14...b5>, a push that Svidler realized later, would even have been stronger one move earlier.

White’s <21.Be4> was a mistake, he should have tried <21.Nc3>, as with inventive play Black could whip up a devastating attack. After <24...Ng4> it was ‘completely over’ as ‘Black is giving mate’.

For his final 10 moves Nakamura had only 12 seconds left, but even worse was his position.

Svidler was happy with his play and his win, but he didn’t forget to mention that for his opponent there were mitigating circumstances, as it was clear for everyone to see that Nakamura was still ill."

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Sep-01-09  returnoftheking: Sometimes he is lazy and makes draws, but that says nothing about his strength. Just some examples; 1997 he won a tournament shared with Kasparov and Kramnik, 2005 he shared 2nd place with Anand behind Topalov in the World championship tournament. 4 Time russian champion. A very talented player and there are few players clearly better, if any.
Sep-01-09  returnoftheking: I see you deleted your post ;)
Sep-01-09  kingsindian2006: <returnoftheking> who are you talking to ? maybe naka fans are delusional....hmmm
Sep-01-09  returnoftheking: <kingsindian2006: <returnoftheking> who are you talking to ? maybe naka fans are delusional....hmmm>

Lol, you should know by now that I am more of a delusional Svidler fan;)

Sep-01-09  kingsindian2006: <returnoftheking> i do know you are delusional
Sep-01-09  DCP23: <returnoftheking: 4 Time russian champion.>

5-time: 1994, 1995, 1997, 2003, 2008.

Sep-01-09  returnoftheking: Thanks DCP23, I probably got confused by the thread about Svid a few weeks ago, should have remembered it !
Sep-01-09
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  Colonel Mortimer: Nakamura brings his marbles to the big boys playground and gets slapped around.
Sep-02-09
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  chancho: Naka should not be too disheartened by his record against Svidler thus far. Everyone has met an opponent at some point who gives them fits. Gazza had Gulko slapping him around. Naka only needs to keep working hard at his game. The rest will take care of itself.
Sep-04-09
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  WannaBe: I believe this quote, have its basis from military, but I think it applies across the board/all life...

"You rise/reach to the level of your incompetence."

And I think (No, this does not necessarily mean Naka, or any other chess player) it applies to chess more 'realistically' than any other.

Once you've peaked, you've peaked... (I peaked around 1100...)

Sep-04-09  Oinkbaum: <WannaBe> It's from the Peter Principe which says that "In a Hierarchy Every Employee Tends to Rise to His Level of Incompetence."

It has some logic to it

Sep-04-09  Valmy: <You rise/reach to the level of your incompetence> Isn't it from the book "The Peter Principle", by Dr. Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull?
Sep-06-09
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  Stonehenge: I wonder if 22...Ba6 would have been even stronger.
Sep-06-09  VinnyRoo2002: I prefer the quote, "You are not as good as you look when you win and you are not as bad as you look when you lose."
Sep-12-09  kingfu: Nakamura is a great player. However, when your queen rook and queen knight never get developed, then you may expect early defeat no matter the players or ratings.
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