chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Kiss vs Gedeon Barcza
"Goodbye Kiss" (game of the day Aug-07-2012)
Debrecen (1934)
Nimzowitsch Defense: Scandinavian. Exchange Variation (B00)  ·  0-1

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 25 times; par: 29 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 736 more games of G Barcza
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: If we are missing an important game, you can submit it (in PGN format) at our PGN Upload Utility.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
Sep-25-09  Autoreparaturwerkbau: Kiss spent a lot of time saving cornered knight. Meanwhile he was offered nice all-4-minor-pieces-coordinated-mate.
Oct-20-10  Cardinal Fang: It's a pure mate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_m...
May-23-11  Operation Mindcrime: This game appears in Fred Reinfeld's "Great Short Games of the Chess Masters", but white is listed as "Amateur", which isn't quite as romantic as "Kiss" :-) Good mate at the end.
Aug-07-12  RookFile: Keep it simple!
Aug-07-12  LoveThatJoker: Fantastically beautiful mate!

Of course what adds to the aesthetic quality of this checkmate is the rarity of the winning side still possessing all four minor pieces, and all of them being directly involved in the creation/enforcement of it - this to the exclusion of the auspices of his remaining major piece and pawns.

The final position is harmonious.

This is truly both a magnificent game from Gedeon Barcza and a brilliant choice for GOTD.

Bravo!

LTJ

Aug-07-12  sofouuk: if you're going to play this system as black (and several club players of my acquaintance do) it's worth knowing that 5...Bxf3 is unsound:

6.Nxd5 Bxd1 7.Nxc7+ Kd7 8.Nxa8 Bxc2 9.d5!


click for larger view

not a move that your average club player is likely to find, of course, and Kiss didn't either, but it's a killer

10...Nb4 11.Bb5+ Kd6 12.Bf4+ Kxd5 13.Nc7+ Ke4 14.Be3


click for larger view

black is down the exchange, will soon lose his extra pawn, and the less said about king safety, the better. not fun

Aug-07-12  xthred: A four piece mate!
Aug-07-12  backrank: Heidenfeld said in 1981 that this might be the most beautiful mate that has ever occurred in a real game (although the game itself was somewhat 'lightweight') and called it an 'immortal mate':


click for larger view

It's a so-called pure mate: each flight square is covered by one single piece only (or by none, if it's self-blocked).

Aug-07-12  backrank: Now I observe that <cardinal Fang> has already said it.

BTW, Heidenfeld gives Barcza's opponent as 'NN' (as do all other sources I know), and he doesn't comment on White's 9th move, but only on 11 Ke2(??). Bd2 would have given up the plan saving the cornered knight, but would have led to approximate equality, although, as again Heidenfeld remarks, very probably Barcza would have won against NN nonetheless.

Aug-07-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: Pretty finish, but not a great game because of the mistakes on both sides. Kiss must have been very surprised to be mated by minor pieces only.
Aug-07-12  Cemoblanca: ...
Oh, can't get enough, oh, oh
I can't get enough, oh, oh
I can't get enough
Yeah, ha

Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do

You was made for mate me in 14 Barcza baby
I was made for foolin' me

And I can't get enough of you Barcza baby
Can you get enough of me
...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM30...

;0)

Aug-07-12  backrank: Another great (and more substantial) Barzca game (which won a brilliancy prize):

G Barcza vs O Troianescu, 1948

Aug-07-12  LoveThatJoker: <backrank> G Barcza vs O Troianescu, 1948 is a tremendous game!

Thanks for mentioning it here!

LTJ

Aug-07-12  TheTamale: Can't say I'm surprised Kiss lost. Did they play this game in consultation? Did poor Beth have to weep bitter tears again because Peter Criss was playing all night? Were they seconded by any members of the Kiss Army?
Aug-07-12  backrank: <LTJ> Glad you like it!
Aug-07-12  ajile: They need to spend less time on their makeup and more time on their openings.
Aug-07-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: An arrangement in bishops and knights op 2.There is a similar mate where the knights are straddling both sides and the bishops together:


click for larger view

Aug-07-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Check also Melinin vs Savinov,1988
Aug-07-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Check also:Dodge vs Houghteling for my above arrangement-it is better than I said it was!
Aug-07-12  backrank: Dodge vs J R Houghteling, 1904


click for larger view

I have seen that game before, and yet it's the craziest mate I've ever seen in a game. It looks like a roof or tent or an overcoat; only that it doesn't give the white king shelter ;)

BTW, I wasn't able to find the other game mentioned by <kevin86>, it doesn't seem to be in the database.

Aug-07-12  backrank: I was wrong. It IS in the database:

V Malinin vs V Savinov, 1988

Final position:


click for larger view

How strange that these things really happen in games.

There's a difference to the other mate: the black king seems to be floating on wings of heaven here.

Aug-07-12  backrank: All these mates are pure mates ...
Aug-07-12  waustad: <cemo>I'd like to hear Steve Allen do a declamation of that.
Aug-08-12  Cemoblanca: <waustad> Steve Allen & Frank Zappa in "Concerto For Two Bicycles" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9P2...). 2 legends in 1. Great footage. I'm also a great fan of the Benny Hill Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq1t...). Enjoy & feel good. ;0)

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
From Fred Reinfeld's "Great Short Games of the Chess Masters"
from y TJoker's KP Laughed at Fredthebear's Remarks by fredthebear
Checkmate 1930-1939
by Chessdreamer
Nimzowitsch Def: Scandinavian. Exchange (B00) 0-1Minor Pieces #
from f i n d t h e o b j by fredthebear
From Fred Reinfeld's "Great Short Games of the Chess Masters"
from Short games by masters by rbaglini
Nice nimzovitsch consider 9. d5 ! (in comments)
from Quick games by Hugo pawn
Cardinal Fang's favorite games
by Cardinal Fang
From Fred Reinfeld's "Great Short Games of the Chess Masters"
from yWalk the King 1.e4 to Fredthebear's Store by maverian
oviguan's favorite games
by oviguan
Alleged to be a "Pure Mate".
from Kenneth Parker's thought-provoking games by sea7kenp
14 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection XII by PinkLedDoor
7 Aug 2012
from GOTD by Treadhead57
bishop knight mate-rainbow #2
from magic mates by kevin86

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2020, Chessgames Services LLC