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Sanan Sjugirov vs Peter Svidler
Russian Championship Superfinal (2009), Moscow RUS, rd 5, Dec-24
Caro-Kann Defense: Advance. Short Variation (B12)  ·  1-0

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Dec-25-09  Hesam7: <The crosstable news was 16-year-old Kalmykian Sanan Sjugirov, an infant neither tender nor mild, demolishing leader Peter Svidler in just 23 moves. It may take a few minutes to figure out exactly why Black is resigning, especially since White's last move is prophylaxis, but the tactical threats are overwhelming and Black loses material by force. Of course you need your opponent's help to win that quickly, but still impressive play from the teen, who was mentioned as a seven-year-old (? something like that) in JC Hallman's 2003 book "The Chess Artist."

[...]

On the black side of a Caro-Kann, Svidler pushed a few too many Pawns That Must Not Be Pushed and his position was soon crawling with more weaknesses than a French alcoholic in a room full of escargot au vin rouge.> from Daily Dirt by Mig Greengard

Dec-25-09  Shams: <The crosstable news was 16-year-old Kalmykian Sanan Sjugirov, an infant neither tender nor mild, demolishing leader Peter Svidler in just 23 moves. It may take a few minutes to figure out exactly why Black is resigning, especially since White's last move is prophylaxis, but the tactical threats are overwhelming and Black loses material by force. Of course you need your opponent's help to win that quickly, but still impressive play from the teen>

http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...

Dec-25-09  Raern: After seeing the game, this made me laugh: "Caro-Kann Defense: Advance. Short Variation"
Dec-25-09
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  whiteshark: <10...Be7!> looks good (w/o a6/b5 pawn moves). After ...0-0 and ...Nb6 --> vs c4. And <13...0-0!> was still playable as Hesam7 already mentioned.

For the rest: Flirting with disaster.

Dec-25-09  notyetagm: 23 c2-c3 1-0


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Is it really 1-0? YES!

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<What? 23.c3 and Black resigns? It's obvious at a glance that Black is worse - the mighty knights on c5 and e5 testify to that. But is it really time to throw in the towel? Let's work things out. First of all, White has a threat: 24.Nxe6, because 24...Qxe6 25.Ng6+ and 26.Rxe6 wins. Ok, surely this isn't a problem, is it? Let's try 23...Rfe8. Oops, that fails to 24.Nf7+ winning the queen. Ok, 23...Rae8. That doesn't lose on the spot, but 24.axb5 axb5 25.Ra6 is terrible for Black. He can't protect the pawn with 25...Rc8 because of 26.Nxe6 Qxe6 27.Ng6+ or with 25...Ng7 due to 26.Ned7, while 25...Bxe5 26.Rxe5 creates new problems. The g5 pawn is hanging, Bxb5 is still a threat, and there's the further threat of 27.Qe2 with a double attack on e6 and h5. So what's left in our starting position? There's 23...Bxe5, but after 24.Rxe5 Black has the familiar problem of having to defend e6 and g5. How about 23...Ng7? Then 24.Bxh7 Kxh7 25.Qd3+ followed by infiltration on g6. <<<In sum, once we ignore the equal material and the fact that it's only move 23 and that a player of Svidler's immense ability is playing Black, and just look at the position on its merits, we can see that it really is horrible, really is lost.>>> [23.c3 Ng7 (23...Rfe8?? 24.Nf7+ ; 23...Rae8 24.axb5 axb5 25.Ra6 Bxe5 (25...Ne7 26.Ned7! ; 25...Rc8 26.Nxe6 Qxe6 27.Ng6+ Bxg6 28.Rxe6 ) 26.Rxe5 ; 23...Bxe5 24.Rxe5 ) 24.Bxh7 Kxh7 25.Qd3+ Kg8 26.Qg6 ] 1-0>

Dec-25-09  notyetagm: Shocking to see a 2750+ lose like this.
Dec-25-09  Mr. Bojangles: <notyetagm: Shocking to see a 2750+ lose like this.>

More shocking than this?

Anand vs Aronian, 2009

Dec-25-09  notyetagm: <Mr. Bojangles: <notyetagm: Shocking to see a 2750+ lose like this.>

More shocking than this?

Anand vs Aronian, 2009>

Ok, not *that* shocking. :-)

That's not just a 2750 but the World Champion!

Dec-25-09  znsprdx: well I dunno - this isn't April Fool's Day 23...Kg7 and it is just another game, maybe a bit difficult...but lots of play.

Please pardon my skepticism: These moves were required to make this position possible...

Why 18...g5? [trying to play like Alekhine?-"on both sides of the board"]

19...Rf8?? [Rc8 was the natural move] and subsequently

22....Kh8??? [Was this made while the ink was drying on the cheque? "my boy win - 'DA?!' "]

MERRY XMAS to all ...and to all a Good Knight

Dec-25-09
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  Troller: 23..Kg7 24.Ned7 Rfe8 25.Nxf6 Kxf6 26.Re5 and Black has no good defence against the threat of g4.

Kh8 must be to free Bf6 for an exchange on e5 (in case the queen does not cover g5 anymore). So there is an idea behind it, although this does not work out at this stage of the game of course. Horrible game by Svidler, but a nice scalp for the youngster.

Dec-25-09  notyetagm: http://chessninja.com/dailydirt/

MIG:

<On the black side of a Caro-Kann, Svidler pushed a few too many <<<Pawns That Must Not Be Pushed>>> and his position was soon crawling with more weaknesses than a French alcoholic in a room full of escargot au vin rouge.>

Dec-25-09  notyetagm: I love how Mig says that, <PAWNS THAT MUST NOT BE PUSHED>. :-)

22 ♘b3-c5


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There are *HUGE* <HOLES> in the Black position on e5 and c5, and the e6- and g5-pawns are terribly weak, all because of <PAWN PUSHES>.

Game Collection: Every time you push a pawn it weakens squares "Svidler pushed a few too many Pawns That Must Not Be Pushed"

Svidler played this game like this 1500 player at one of my clubs. He loves to <PUSH PAWNS>, thinking he is <GAINING SPACE>, while all he is really doing is <CREATING PERMANENT WEAKNESSES>, just like Svidler did in this game.

Dec-25-09  notyetagm: The White <PASSED PAWN ARMY>, from Black's perpective:

http://chessbase.com/news/2009/even...

Dec-25-09
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  Fusilli: Well put, <Notyetagm>.

<Hesam7: It seems that 13. ... f6, weakening e6, was a major mistake>. Yes, and 11...b5 doesn't look wise either.

Dec-25-09  JohnBoy: "Short variation" - works for me.
Dec-25-09
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  JointheArmy: I am going to have to keep my eyes on this kid.
Dec-25-09
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  Ron: It seems that Svidler hardly plays the Caro-Kann Repertoire Explorer: Peter Svidler (black)

I wonder why he decided to play it this time--the "draw with black" attitude?

Dec-26-09  notyetagm: <JohnBoy: "Short variation" - works for me.>

Short indeed.

Dec-26-09  magnuschess: Black's position is not good and black had trouble about pawns structure ,,, but it was not reason to resing. Ýt's about time i think..
Dec-26-09  jussu: <Raern: After seeing the game, this made me laugh: "Caro-Kann Defense: Advance. Short Variation">

Good finding! :D

Dec-26-09  notyetagm: <magnuschess: Black's position is not good and black had trouble about pawns structure ,,, but it was not reason to resing. Ýt's about time i think..>

See the comments that Monokroussos made that I included in some of my previous comments; Black is dead lost and Svidler was correct to resign.

<In sum, once we ignore the equal material and the fact that it's only move 23 and that a player of Svidler's immense ability is playing Black, and just look at the position on its merits, <<<we can see that it really is horrible, really is lost.>>>>

Dec-27-09  ajile: The Nb3 idea isn't that dangerous for Black. Black just played a bad move (11..b5).

See here:

Opening Explorer

And this game which shows that Black doesn't need to fear White playing c4 in this line:

Rublevsky vs Morozevich, 2006

Dec-27-09
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  HeMateMe: <JointheArmy:> What happened to your avatar? Was he sent to Afghanistan?
Jan-02-10
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: The notion that someone as young as Carlsen has someone even younger on his tail boggles the mind.

I don't mind 9...h5, as this move comes up sooner or later in many games with the "French" pawn structure, although Black can perhaps wait on this push and play ...Be7 instead. 10...a6 doesn't bother me either, preventing Bb5 in response to ...c6-c5. However, Black never prepared for the c-pawn's advance, which might have been a strategic error.

Jan-04-10  Stoned Knight: I am always disappointed when players give up when the game is still playable. I imagine that Sjugirov has "broken Svidler's ego", as Bobby Fischer would put it.

In any case, Rybka gives white a decisive advantage and suggests the following continuations - I wouldn't have never considered h4 being in attack mode :-)-

[+2.78] d=10 23...h4 24.g4 Ng7 25.Bxh7 Kxh7 26.Ncd7 Be7 27.Nxf8 Rxf8 28.axb5 cxb5 29.Ra2 Bf6

[+2.88] d=10 23...Ng7 24.Bxh7 Kxh7 25.Ncd7 Kg8 26.Nxf6 Rxf6 27.Qxg5 Rf5 28.Qh6

[+3.15] d=10 23...Bxe5 24.Rxe5 Ng7 25.Qxg5 Bxd3 26.Nxd3 bxa4 27.Rxa4 Kg8 28.Nf4 Qd8 29.Nxe6 Qxg5

[+3.40] d=10 23...g4 24.Nxe6 gxh3

Rybka thinks that the worst move is 11 ... b5? where it would have played 11... a5 12. a4 Be7 13. c4 +0.18

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