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Magnus Carlsen vs Vasyl Ivanchuk
Corus Group A (2010), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 7, Jan-23
Slav Defense: General (D10)  ·  1-0



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Jan-23-10  Xaurus: Haha, awesome story by Spassky. I like him. :)
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  HeMateMe: kinda weird how this went down--just not counting off your captures in the center?
Jan-23-10  Shams: <AnotherBike> "PS 2" is a video game console. "PPS" is what you were looking for. :)
Jan-23-10  AnotherBike: <Shams> Every day I learn something ;-) My Latin is very bad anyway.
Jan-23-10  Marmot PFL: Obviously a 1969 brain will not calculate as quickly as a 1990 model.
Jan-23-10  Smileshire: Nigel mentioned about not losing to a kid. Chucky must have taken note but the prob is he has turned it around and looked like the kid from move 15.

20 moves later and his calculations have not been the brain storm that it looked like!

He must be kicking himself.

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  whiteshark: <AnotherBike:< ... Ivanchuk probably only calculated the "normal" takeback of Nd4 which is Nxd4,>> Thanks for the sharing this explanation. I've been looking for like that. :D
Jan-23-10  Bobby Fiske: <kamalakanta: I think it is in this interview of Susan Polgar with Spassky: >

Great link! He's talking about Kortcnoi, Ivanchuk, Magnus Carlsen, Bobby Fischer, death, Karov, lack of Russian teamspirit, Kasparov and Kamsky.

Jan-23-10  guikfc: Gotta love Chucky,haha.
Jan-23-10  tibone: what could he have played instead of 8...c5?. Not Nbd7 i guess? because black needs Bc8 in case of Nf4?
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  HeMateMe: Boris has a future in politics. He can really capture a room.
Jan-23-10  ajile: White's d4 pawn was poisoned. 15..Nxd4 was the losing move.
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  Peligroso Patzer: <AnotherBike:< ... Ivanchuk probably only calculated the "normal" takeback of [15. ...} Nd4 which is [16.] Nxd4,>>

Alternatively, is it possible that when playing 15. ... Nxd4, Ivanchuk overlooked 18. b4 (winning a piece) ?

Jan-23-10  wfarmia: why black not move 27.....Rad2 i think its better!!!
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  benveniste: <wfarmia>, 27 ... ♖ad2 is met by 28. ♕e5, resulting in the loss of another pawn. The game looks lost to me either way.
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  JointheArmy: <Spassky says that, at one point, he thought Ivanchuk had the potential to be World Champion, so he was thinking of helping him in this quest. But they were walking one day, and a big dog barked at them, and Ivanchuk was so afraid! And even an hour or more later, Ivanchuk was still afraid of the dog! Spassky said that from this, he knew Ivanchuk would never become World Champion (you have to have strong nerves!....)>

I LOL'd.

Jan-24-10  AnotherBike: <Peligroso Patzer>Only Ivanchuk knows... during commentry Hans said that b4 was the principle move, so one would expect Ivanchuk not to miss that one, where Bxd4 was not the principle move. Probably Ivanchuk saw, ok he has b4 after Bc5, but I have Bc3+. But not with the Knight on e2 (see my previous post).

To which I would like to add that Ivanchuk wore a horrible coloured tie. Maybe it looked nice closer up, but from 10 meters distance it did not look good.

Carlsen was wearing his sponsors outfit which looks good on him. Is he the first chessplayer to wear advertising on his clothes, like footballers, cyclist etc.?

Jan-30-10  chillowack: <Marmot PFL: Obviously a 1969 brain will not calculate as quickly as a 1990 model.>

True--but both are basically strong A-players. The 21-point difference is negligible in practice.

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  Richard Taylor: 13. Nxd4 looks unwise.
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  Richard Taylor: I mean 15....Nxd4 lol..looks to be a miscalculation. Pins - avoid pins!
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  Richard Taylor: What else did he have though? The B on e6 doesn't look well placed.
Feb-06-10  Damianx: y not 17 b takes f2 check
Feb-06-10  Damianx: Q b6 check pawn f5
Jun-15-10  Indiachess: 18..Qxd1+ definitely is a blunder, might have cost him the match.
Aug-14-10  Ulhumbrus: The capture 9 cxd5 begins an attack upon the c5 pawn, uncovering the White Queen upon the c5 pawn after 9...Nxd5 10 Nxd5
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