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Zhaoqin Peng vs Sjoerd Plukkel
"Not Mightier than the Sjoerd" (game of the day Dec-30-2013)
Corus Group C (2010), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 12, Jan-30
Kangaroo Defense: General (E00)  ·  0-1



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  whiteshark: Instead he blundered with <38...Kf8?>, but white missed to play the stronger <43.Bc3!> or <43.Ke2> to secure the winning advantage.
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  whiteshark: Finally <63.Qxh3??> leads to disaster. 63.Re3 or 63.e5 should have drawn instead.
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  sleepyirv: 27. Kxh2 Rxc1 28. Rxc1 Qh6+ picks up the rook. puts up an unknown gem today, what an incredibly sharp game.

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  Phony Benoni: I wonder why "The Peng is Not Mightier than the Sjoerd" was not used. It seems obvious.
Dec-30-13  Cushion: I don't know how Sjoerd is pronounced, but 'Peng' is pronounced like Pung.
Dec-30-13  mmousez: Anybody who attempts to relate to the pun "the pen is mightier than the sword" has a very misguided understanding of the Chinese surname Peng, in both pronunciation and meaning.
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  offramp: If it is pronounced pung why is it transliterated peng?
Dec-30-13  NewLine: I don't know how to pronounce "Zhaoqin", "Peng", "Sjoerd", "Plukkel", and on top of that, there is a KANGAROO in the room too!
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  Phony Benoni: <mmousez> Well, I can't deny that I have a misguided understanding of Chinese surnames. In fact, it would be more accurate to say I have no understanding at all. But you have answered my question, and I thank you for that.

But no matter how her (at least I did that much research) name is pronounced, I give White a lot of credited for a spirited defense. Perhaps too spirited; had she played less aggresively near the end would Black have won?

Dec-30-13  morfishine: White wins with <43.Bc3>

After 43...Qb1+ 44.Ke2 Qa2+ 45.Bd2 Black cannot break in and White has multiple threats: 46.Qh4, pushing the d-pawn or simply 46.Qxa7

Dec-30-13  paulofx2071: why 40)..... Nc5+? and not direct 40)...... Rf8?
Dec-30-13  bachiller: If 'peng' is pronounced like 'pung', then "The Peng is Not Mightier than the Sjoerd" would have been a heck of a pun(g).

(Pung of the day?)

Dec-30-13  Lil Swine: qin is pronounced chin.
Dec-30-13  Herma48852: <offramp> During the cultural revolution it was decided that a romanization, originally developed in Moscow and later named Hanyu Pinyin, was less western and therefor more suitable than other existing romanizations. Unfortunately it takes a bit of serious study to learn to pronounce things correctly. Furthermore, it doesn't take into account tones which is a whole other level of complication. As a small consolation, Chinese grammar is far simpler than English.
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  kevin86: An unusual game where the loser offer the queen-TWICE.
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  fm avari viraf: "Peng in Pangs".
Dec-30-13  JonathanJ: <Phoni Benoni> especially since that was exactly my suggestion. Somehow seems to have fun with ruining my pun suggestions. A few years ago I suggested the pun "Burne the Witsch" or so for a game where Blackburne defeated Nimzowitsch and used the pun for another Nimzo loss (with neither Blackburne nor Burn involved). That also kind of ruined the pun.
Dec-30-13  nolanryan: this pun is dumb becauser her name is not Pen and her name is not sword.
Dec-30-13  The Last Straw: <Lil Swine> "qin" is pronounced "cheeng" or "cheen", not "chin".
Dec-30-13  czxcjx: I believe that will settle disputes over the pronunciation of Zhaoqin's name, there being a phonetic pronunciation.
Dec-30-13  Cheapo by the Dozen: I'm wondering whether White could afford to snatch the knight on move 32.

Recall that Rxe4 is unplayable for Black unless he does something to avert a back-rank mate. And it's not easy to avert that by driving the white king to the e-file (so that it's a check) other than by getting his queen to h1, and if he does that the queen will be en prise. g6 might look like it creates luft with tempo, but d5 could restore the back rank threat status quo.

(OK, I used French, German and Latin in that. But I swear it's just a coincidence!!)

Dec-30-13  anjyplayer: White was finding ways to lose a game.
Dec-31-13  vanderyacht: <paulofx2071: why 40)... Nc5+? and not direct 40)... Rf8?>

It might be because otherwise white's next move would have been Rxh2.

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  FSR: <sleepyirv: ... puts up an unknown gem today>

True enough, iff* "unknown gem" means "blunder-filled game."


Jan-02-14  Moszkowski012273: White could of drawn with 35.Nh6+...
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