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Ivan Saric vs Bachana Morchiashvili
European Individual Championship (2010), Rijeka CRO, rd 11, Mar-17
Caro-Kann Defense: Classical Variation. Main lines (B18)  ·  1-0



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  Infohunter: "The defensive power of a pinned piece is largely illusory." Largely, but NOT ENTIRELY. For even though White's Bishop is pinned against his King, he still forms part of the mating net.
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  agb2002: Black threatens Rxc1#.

Black's back rank is too weak: 32.Rf8+ Bxf8 (32... Kh7 33.g6#) 33.Qxf8+ Kh7 34.g6#.

Jan-13-20  saturn2: 32. Rf8+ the only check leads to mate
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  Pedro Fernandez: <<stacase>: This wasn't even a puzzle.> Why my dear <stacase>? Why? It is at any rate an authentic puzzle. Not for <Chris Owens> of course! (I think he gonna write about it, though). What about your young sister, say?
Jan-13-20  Walter Glattke: What agb2002 said, I had wrote the same.
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  OhioChessFan: Per <Info>, there is something a little unsettling about a pinned piece being part of the mating net. Sure, a King can't step on a square under attack, but if the attacking piece can't consummate the attack, you're left feeling there's a bit of injustice involved. I had a conversation about this maybe a month ago with a beginner, and recall neither of us seemed too convinced of the rightness of it.
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  Infohunter: Well, <Ohio>, that's an interesting point that you bring up. Still, there is no escape from the fact that the mate in three which forms this puzzle would not exist were it not for that pinned White Bishop's coverage of h6.
Jan-13-20  CSnouckHurgronje: In a blitz game, White's Bishop on c1 would "capture" the Black King on h6, thereby ending the game, before Black's Rook could "capture" the White King on b1.
Jan-13-20  Damenlaeuferbauer: After long pondering, my old Croatian friend Ivan, who won a superb game against Magnus Carlsen at the Tromso olympiad in 2014 (Ruy Lopez, Bird variation), finally found the mate in 3 moves with 32.Rf8+!,Bxf8 (32.-,Kh7 33.g6#) 33.Qxf8+,Kh7 34.g6#. Concerning this game in Rijeka (Gabriele D'Annunzio would have said "Fiume"), Morchiashvili had to play of course 13.-,0-0 14.Ne5,c5 or 14.Kb1,Qb6 (Lars Schandorff, Jouvanka Houska) to equalize with the black pieces. If you play an opening, you have to learn your lines!
Jan-13-20  zb2cr: White's goose looks cooked, as Black is threatening mate in 1. However, there is a check available: 32. Rf8+, Bxf8; 33. Qxf8+, Kh7; 34. g6#. As alluded to by <infohunter> and <OhioChessFan>, the pinned White Bishop on c1 still covers the escape square on h6, according to the rules of the game, regardless of whether this piece can actually move to deliver a capture!
Jan-13-20  TheaN: Two interesting concepts in this Monday puzzle.

One, White is pretty much left with only the winning move. Pretty much, as 32.Qf4 is the <only> alternative by virtue of protecting c1 and the combination still existing. Any other move loses: 32.Qe3 Qxe3 #5, 32.b3/b4 Rxc1+ 33.Kb2 Rb1#, 32.a3/a4 Rxc1+ 33.Ka2 Ra1+ 34.Kb3 a4#/Qb4# or 32....Rxc1# if White plays any other move.

Two, White mates by using a <directly pinned> piece. Some have already mentioned this fact. It works counter intuitive: we cannot put ourselves in check, for a split moment you forget the bishop <is> covering h6 and there's one piece that can't move on this diagonal and it's the Black King. It's legal, because the rules of chess prevent Black from moving into the bishop's scope even though the eventuality of Bxh6 itself is illegal.

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  dorsnikov: Even I solved the puzzle!
Jan-13-20  JohnBoy: This took me surprisingly long (like 1 min), until I realized that the B @ c1 covers h6. SMH.
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  thegoodanarchist: A little music, perhaps?

"Yes, we have no Bachana
We have no Bachana today"

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  chrisowen: Keysroof videroom rekinlet rf8sdoge letchwon vibeloom foodlegs videroom rebudums rematers rehavers 2 it ok vowumums vimumums bf8sdoge lengthon foodroom videroom dunks its fin 33.Qxf8+ vestroom mobslegs fendover rebudums rematers rehavers 1 it ok vowumums vimumums rugsgluv keysroof huvinitz it's vastdoor vinerent nagsthis gutwishy boyslitz videroom duckonam it's vastdoor vineroom thrustom winsbuys zitsduck it's vastdoor rf8sdoge fonehome videroom rekinlet dunks its a 31Rd1 vestroom duffregs donerent rebudums rematers rehavers videroom 3 it ok vowumums vimumums dunks its a 31Qd1 vestroom ebugrent vestdove doffregs donevent videroom 2 3 it ok vowumums vimumums rehavers datevine mudsment umsumums deffyhog eoyoreum coveroom nefarious rugsgluv keysroof rf8sdoge foodroom?
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  gawain: White's desperate try will succeed, thanks to the bishop covering escape square h6.
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  Fusilli: If 32.Rf8+ Kh7, White has the option of playing 33.Qf5+ and then dramatically exclaim "Oh, no, I blundered my queen!" followed by the "so, are you gonna resign now or do I REALLY have to mate you" look.
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  Fusilli: <dorsnikov: Even I solved the puzzle!>

lol... Well done! Good luck tomorrow... it's going to be a lot harder than today's!

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  Knightf7mate: When oh when will chrisowen publish MSMP (My Sixty Memorable Puzzles)? I can just see the fantastic reviews by e. e. cummings, Lewis Carrol, Dr. Seuss, and other literary luminaries. chrisowen, imho, is the prolix pundit of the puzzlers, the cherished charioteer of the chess world, and the bane of the babel bleary bloggers of chessdom. Three cheers for chris! Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
Jan-13-20  Nullifidian: 32. ♖f8+ ♗xf8 (♔h7 33. ♙g6#) 33. ♕xf8+ ♔h7 34. ♙g6#, as the bishop on c1 is covering h6.
Jan-13-20  bamaexpert: Lessee, rf8+ Kh2 g6 mate. Or, if ...bxf8, Qxf8+ Kh2 g6 mate. I can't believe no one else in this thread saw this. TIME TO CHECK. (By the way, why don't posters say that anymore?)
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  Yuridmi: Responding to Knightf7mate: When oh when will c*******n publish MSMP (My Sixty Memorable Puzzles)?

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Jan-13-20  TheaN: <bamaexpert: (By the way, why don't posters say that anymore?)>

I'm not sure if you're referring to "time to check" or just the solution in general, but there seems to be a correlation so I'll tackle both.

I think that anno 2020 most CG regulars have become so affiliated with solving itself that just posting the (presumed) solution and "time to check" isn't really a thing anymore. I used to do it, one of the common ones doing it daily.

Nowadays my approach is different and I do check the game line before I post. If I'm correct I tend to post something referring to the puzzle or an interesting sideline, occasionally the main line if it wasn't played. If I'm wrong however, I tend to just blatantly throw in the thought process and where it went wrong. In both occasions I think it's more to the point and useful then posting the full how-and-why with a "time to check".

That... or we just became lazy. Probably the latter. But we don't say that out loud :>

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  Knightf7mate: <yuridmi> perhaps the irony of my post escaped you?
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