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Thomas Henry Piper vs Levi Benima
London (Vizayanagaram) (1883), London ENG
Zukertort Opening: Black Mustang Defense (A04)  ·  1-0

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Nov-25-10
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  agb2002: White is a pawn down.

Black threatens 32... Be6 33.Qf4 Rxb3 34.Bxb3 (34.Qe4 Bg8) Qxb3.

An option is to take advantage of the cornered black queen with 32.Be5, threatening 33.Ra1:

A) 32... Bxe5 33.Rf8+ Ng8 34.Q(R)xg8#.

B) 32... Rxe5 33.Ra1 Qxa1+ 34.Nxa1 Re1+ 35.Kf2 Rxa1 36.Qd3 Bf5 and Black is winning.

The loose pieces on d7 and e3 suggest 32.Rxf6 gxf6 (32... Rxb3 33.Rf8+; 32... Be6 33.Rxe6) 33.Qd4 with multiple threats:

A) 33... Re7 34.Qxf6+ Rg7 35.Be5 Nf5 36.Bxf5 + -.

B) 33... Re6 34.Qxd7 Re2(3) 35.Qxh7#.

C) 33... Rxb3 34.Qxf6+ Kg8 35.Qd8+ (35.Be5 Qc1+ - +)

C.1) 35... Be8+ 36.Qxe8+ Kg7 37.Be5#.

C.2) 35... Kf7 36.Qxd7+

C.2.a) 35... Kg8 36.Bxh7+ and mate next.

C.2.b) 35... Kf8 36.Bd6+ Kg8 37.Qxh7#.

C.2.c) 35... Kf6 36.Qd4+ Ke7 (36... Kg5 37.Qh4#; 36... Ke6(f7) 37.Qc4+ and 38.Qxb3) 37.Bh4+ Kf8 (37... Ke8 38.Qd8+ Kf7 39.Qe7+ Kg8 40.Bxh7+ Kh8 41.Bf6#) 38.Qd8+ Kg7 (38... Kf7 39.Qe7+ transposes to the previous variation) 39.Bf6+ Kf7 40.Qe7+ Kg8 41.Qg7#.

C.3) 35... Kg7 36.Qxd7+ Nf7 (the king moves transpose to C.2) 37.Be5+

C.3.a) 37... Kg8 38.Qd8#.

C.3.b) 37... Kh6 38.Qe6+ Kh5 (38... Kg5 39.Qf5+ Kh6 (39... Kh4 40.Bf6#) 40.Qf6+ Kh5 41.Qxf7+, etc.) 39.Bd1+ wins.

C.3.c) 37... Kf8 38.Bd6+

C.3.c.i) 38... Kg8 39.Qe8+ Kg7 40.Bf8+ and mate next.

C.3.c.ii) 38... Kg7 39.Qg4+ Kh8 (39... Kf6 40.Qf5+ Kg7 41.Qxh7+ Kf6 42.Qg6#) 40.Qc8+ Kg7 41.Bf8+ Kg8 (41... Kf6 42.Qf5#) 42.Bh6+ Nd8 43.Qxd8+ wins.

C.3.c.iii) 38... Nxd6 39.Qxd6+ Kf7 40.Qd7+ Kf8 (40... Kf6 41.Qf5+ and 42.Qxh7+) 41.Qc8+ and White will collect one or two pawns with check before taking the rook or will chase the black king with queen, bishop and d-pawn.

D) 33... Nf5 34.Qxd7 Rxb3 35.Qxf5 Qc1+ 36.Kf2 Qd2+ 37.Kf1 Qc1+ 38.Be1 + -.

Nov-25-10  goldenbear: I blundered my queen: Rxf6 gxf6 Qf7?
Nov-25-10  knight knight: Thursday. The bishop on f6 is shaky. And the black queen is short of squares. Let's look at 32. Be5:

a) 32...Bxe5?? 33. Rf8+ Ng8 34. Rxg8# or 34. Qxg8#

b) 32...Rxe5 33. Ra1 Qxa1+ 34. Nxa1 white has queen for rook and bishop with advantage

c) 32...Rxe5 33. Ra1 Re1+ 34. Rxe1 winning the exchange

d) 32...Rxe5 33. Ra1 Be6 now that's annoying, 34. Qf4 Bxb3 35. Rxa3 Bxc2 black has three pieces for the queen

e) 32...Rxe5 33. Ra1 Be6 34. Qc3 this covers e1. 34...Re1+ 35. Qxe1 Bxa1 36. Qxe6 this looks equalish

Hmmm, maybe just 32. Rxf6 gxf6 33. Qd4 a big fork

a) 33...Be6 34. Qxe3
b) 33...Re7 34. Qxf6+ Kg8/Rg7 35. Qxh6
c) 33...Nf5 34. Qxd7 (34...Nxg3 35. Qxh7#)

Let's see what white played...

Nov-25-10  CHESSTTCAMPS: White is down a pawn, but has nice piece coordination, whereas black's minor pieces are not communicating and the black queen is virtually trapped out of play on a3. It seems her majesty has been pawn-hunting at a severe price. The Bf6 is holding black's unstable king position together so it makes complete sense to eliminate it.

32.Rxf6! gxf6 33.Qd4! (Bf4? Ng4!) and now black can't meet the triple threat of Qxe3, Qxf6+, and Qxd7:

A) 33... Re7 34.Qxf6+ Rg7 35.Be5 Nf5 36.Bxf5 wins

B) 33... Re6 34.Qxd7 wins.

C) 33... Rxb3 34.Qxf6+! Kg8 35.Qd8+ Kg7 36.Bd5+ Kf7 37.Qxd7+ Kf8 38.Bd6+ Kg8 39.Qxh7#

D) 33... Rxg3 34.hxg3 Kg7 35.Qxd7+ Nf7 36.Nd4 (threatening Ne6+) Qe3+ 37.Kh2 Qh6+ 38.Qh3 with a won ending a piece up.

D.1) 34... Ng4 35.Qxd7 and the knight falls too.

D.2) 34... Be8 35.Qxf6+ Kg8 36.Qxh6 Qxb4 37.Bxh7+ Kf7 38.Bg6+ Ke7 39.Qe3+ wins a 2nd piece.

Nov-25-10  gofer: It looks like we have another "overworked-pawn" position. Pg7 is a doing fantastic job protecting Nh6, Bf6 and even the king (from attack via the a1-h8 diagonal). But he is just one piece, not an army. Time to rip black's defenses to pieces...

<32 Rxf6 ...>

White is threatening 33 Rf8+ Ng8 34 Rxg8#/Qxg8#, black has no effective checks and no time to play anything fancy.

32 ... Re8 33 Rxh6! opening up black's king to 34 Qf7! or losing another piece! 32 ... Be6 33 Rxe6 winning
32 ... Ng8 33 Rd6 winning
32 ... g6 33 Qd4 winning

Main Line

<32 ... gxf6>

Now white is spoilt for choice!

33 Qd4 ... threatening Bd7, Pf6 and Re3
33 Qf4 ... threatening Nh6, Pf6 and Re3
33 Qh4 ... threatening Nh6, Pf6 and Qxh7# if Nh6 moves

But I think he will choose 33 Qd4 as the feeble Pf6 is the only piece holding black's defenses together.

<33 Qd4 ...>

33 ... Ng8/Be6/Kg7 34 Qxe3 winning
33 ... Re7 34 Qxf6+ Rg7 35 Be5 mating

Game over...

Nov-25-10  Ghuzultyy: I thought of 32.Be5 first but its not a clear win after black lets white take black queen after 32...Rxe5! 33.Ra1 Qxa1+ 34.Nxa1 Ra5+ and wins the knight. Good game for black.

Maybe Rxf6 wins because g7 pawn can't defend everything.

After 32.Rxf6 gxf6

Yes. That should be it. 33.Qd4! Really big fork. Wins the game.

4 points for this puzzle. Making a total of 9 points.

Nov-25-10  knight knight: 32. Be5 <agb2002: 32... Rxe5 33.Ra1 Qxa1+ 34.Nxa1 Re1+ 35.Kf2 Rxa1> Others have also kibitzed this, I kinda stopped after 34. Nxa1 (seeing only 34...Re1+ 35. Kf2 Bxa1?? 36. Kxe1)

So 32. Be5 is a losing move, not just one leading to unclear positions.

Nov-25-10
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  agb2002: <CHESSTTCAMPS:
...
C) 33... Rxb3 34.Qxf6+! Kg8 35.Qd8+ Kg7 36.Bd5+ Kf7 37.Qxd7+ Kf8 38.Bd6+ Kg8 39.Qxh7#>

This is far more efficient than my line C.3.

Nov-25-10  WhiteRook48: i had the first move
Nov-25-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <rilkefan: "34. Qxf6+ Kg8" Something like 35.Qd8+ Kg7 36.Qxd7+ and if ...Nf7 then Be5+ leads to mate.>

So it does, after about six more moves. Thanks. I doubt if Piper analyzed the entire 10-move combination in advance -- but neither did I. I'm still giving myself only half-credit.

Nov-25-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: Anyone else curious about that <Event: London Vizayanagram, 1883> ...?

London is in England. Vizayanagram or Vizayanagaram (విజయనగరo- ) is a city and district in India. Benima was Dutch, and all of his games in this database come from the same event, where Von Bardeleben was the best-known player.

So what *is* the background story? Anyone?

Nov-25-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: It means 'City of Victory', if that helps ...
Nov-25-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  jahhaj: <Domdaniel> From wikipedia

The tournament was held in London at the same time as the 1883 London master tournament (won by Johannes Zukertort ahead of Wilhelm Steinitz). David Hooper and Kenneth Whyld, The Oxford Companion to Chess, Oxford University Press (2nd edition 1992), p. 155. ISBN 0-19-866164-9. The minor tournament was called the Vizayanagaram tournament in recognition of a donation of 200 pounds by the Maharajah of Vizayanagaram, which was used to pay the prizes in that tournament. J.I. Minchin (ed.), The Games Played in the London International Chess Tournament 1883, British Chess Magazine (1973 reprint), 1883, p. xiv.

Nov-25-10
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  Breunor: I came up with 32 Bf4. Did anyone look at this, does it also win?

I had 32 Bf4 (threatening B x h6 and then R x f6) and if 32... Re6 33 B x h6 g x h6 33 B f5.

Thanks for any help!

Nov-25-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  jahhaj: <Breunor> Nice try but 32...Be6 trapping the queen looks a good reply to 32.Bf4
Nov-25-10  CHESSTTCAMPS: <<Breunor> Nice try but 32...Be6 trapping the queen looks a good reply to 32.Bf4>

A good point that I completely missed!

In my analysis (line D), I saw but rejected the game move 34... Bf5 without sufficient consideration. As <David2009> has observed, then it's essential to play the finesse 36.Qg5+! to win. For some reason, I examined this possibility in the D.2 line, but couldn't find the similar idea when I played Crafty (to my cost).

Nov-25-10
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  Domdaniel: <jahhaj> Thanks. I suspected it might be something like that but couldn't find the evidence ... in wikipedia?! Sigh.
Nov-25-10  SufferingBruin: One more thing (I posted my wrong answer last night): Happy Thanksgiving! I'm bringing a large appetite and a fistful of blood thinners. How about you folk?
Nov-25-10  Eduardo Leon: <32.♖xf6>

Demolishing the defensive structure surrounding the black king.

<32...gxf6 33.♕d4>

If black could only give a check with his queen or his rook! But, every square in the first rank is covered.

<33...♖xg3>

Both 33...♖e7 34.♕xf6+ and 33...♖e6 34.♕xd7 are unacceptable for black.

<34.hxg3 ♗f5>

Otherwise, 35.♕xf6+ wins the knight.

<35.♕xf6+ ♔g8 36.♕g5+>

It might seem like 36.♗xf5 wins a piece, but then 36...♘xf5.

<36...♗g6>

Not 36...♔g8 37.♕xh6, winning two pieces instead of one.

<37.♗xg6 hxg6 38.♕xg6+>

After 39.♕xh6+, white can give a series of checks in order to bring his queen to c3, protecting both the knight and the b4 pawn. For example: 38...♔f8 39.♕xh6+ ♔g8 (39...♔e7 40.♕e3+ and 41.♕c3) 40.♕g6+, followed by 41.♕f6+ and 42.♕c3.

Nov-25-10  wals: No joy again. Thought 32.Bh4 was the way to go, but it was a no way move.

depth: 17 : 6 min :
Black error
(+1.26):9...f5. Best, dxc4, +0.47.

depth: 20 : 7 min :
White blunder
(=0.31):10.c5. Best, cxd5, +1.26.

depth: 20 : 6 min :
Black error
(=0.29):16...c6. Best, Bd7, =-0.23.
Qe8, =-0.22.

depth: 19 : 6 min :
White blunder
(-3.24):28.Bc2. Best, Nc2, =-0.33.
Bf3, =-0.36.

depth: 19 : 3 min :
Black blunder
(=0.00):28...Qe3+. Best, Be3, -3.24.

depth: 17 : 3 min :
Black blunder
(+3.36):31...Re3. Best, Qb2, -0.19.

depth: 18 : 3 min :
Black error
(+4.30):33...Rxg3. Best, Nf5, +3.41.

depth: 20 : 8 min :
Black blunder
(+#7):37...Qxb3. Best, hxg6, +4.81.

Black resigned after 38.Bc2+.

1. (#7): 38.Bc2+ Kf8 39.Bxb3 Ke8 40.Qe5+ Kf8 41.Qc7 b5 42.cxb6 Ke8 43.b7 Kf8 44.b8Q#

Nov-26-10  LIFE Master AJ: <BTW theres medical evidence that continuing to use the brain greatly slows down the deterioration, and even stimulate reformation after something like a stroke. Mind you, I'm not sure its helping me :-\>

If it makes you feel any better, I had a period of about 2-3 years when it seemed I was getting worse, not better. (I was constantly stumped in these puzzles.)

Nov-26-10  LIFE Master AJ: By stumped, I mean that when I INITIALLY looked at some of the tougher puzzles, I had no clue of what to do.
Nov-26-10  LIFE Master AJ: Things are much better the 3-6 months. Most of the time, I look at the puzzle and ideas simply pour through my head.

Very gratifying to see all that hard work finally pay off.

Nov-26-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Breunor: Thanks jahaj, that really helps!
Nov-28-10  LIFE Master AJ: I have one of those "red books" on this tournament ... they did mention a side event, (this one); but I don't think they gave any games.
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