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Victor Plotkin vs Vladimir Drkulec
OktoberfestMasters (2009), Kitchener, Ont., rd 2, Oct-17
Italian Game: Italian Variation (C50)  ·  1-0

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Dec-21-11  Eduardo Leon:


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<23.♕xh6+ gxh6 24.g7+>

The instinctive move would be 24.♖h7+??, but it leads nowhere.

<24...♔g8 25.♗h7+!>

The key move. Now white promotes with discovered check, which means the queen cannot be taken.

<25...♔xh7 26.gxf8=♕+ ♔g6 27.♕f7#>

Dec-21-11  CHESSTTCAMPS: Black has 4 pawns for a piece and threatens Bxf2+ as well as cxb2. Both threats are paper tigers, because white has a forced mate:

23.Qxh6+! gxh6 24.g7+ Kg8 25.Bh7+! Kxh7 26.gxf8=Q+ Kg6 27.Qf7#

I usually don't have problems with short forced mates, but today I was looking for Rh7# and therefore spent time on the candidate 23.Bb3?,threatening Qxh6+ followed by Rh7#. I'll leave it to other kibitzers to find best play in this line.

Dec-21-11  njchess: 23. Qxh6+ (Δ Qh7++) gxh6 24. g7+ Kg8 ▢ 25. Bh7+! Kxh7 ▢ 26. gxf8=Q+ Kg6 ▢ 27. Qf7++

Unless White missed Bh7+, which I doubt, this should be the winning line.

Dec-21-11
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  sethoflagos: <<Once:> .....There is one technique that helps. We absolutely must examine forcing lines.>

It's a pity black didn't examine 10...Ng4 11.Re2 Bxf2+ 12.Rxf2 Ne3 13.Qe2 Nxc2 14.Rb1 Bxa2 15.b3 Bxb1 16.Nxb1 Na1 17.Qa2 Nxb3 18.Qxb3 b5


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White to play sans queenside defence

Dec-21-11  CHESSTTCAMPS: I see that <Phony Benoni> has illustrated some of the complications I was exploring after 23.Qb3.
Dec-21-11
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  kevin86: This one is quite easy-queen is sac-ed,regained,and delivers mate.

Funny,there are TWO double checks,but both lose-the text is correct.

Dec-21-11  Whitehat1963: Missed yesterday's but found this one almost instantly.
Dec-21-11  Marmot PFL: In these puzzle positions queen sacs seem to work about 90% of the time, so that's always the first thing to look at. Here there is no need to look any farther, so i would rate it "easy".
Dec-21-11  ThatsTriflin: Ugh, missed it. Didn't see the discovered check!
Dec-21-11
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  doubledrooks: <Once>: Great to have you back!
Dec-21-11
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  doubledrooks: White ends matters with 23. Qxh6+ gxh6 24. g7+ Kg8 25. Bh7+ Kxh7 26. gxf8=Q+ Kg6 27. Qf7#
Dec-21-11  LIFE Master AJ: 23. QxP/h6+!! (Black must take, otherwise its mate.)

I got waylaid for a few minutes, thinking that the next move was Rh7+. However, it soon became apparent that this was not going to work, Black simply plays ...d5, to block Bb3+, and White has nothing.

24. g7+!, Kg8▢; (Forced.)

And now the kicker, ...

25.Bh7+!,

and Black must take, when White takes on f8, promotes to a new Queen, (with check); and the rest is simple, I think is mate in just a couple of moves. (I think that I will save this one to a game collection, its pretty snazzy.)

Dec-21-11  LIFE Master AJ: White's opening was inaccurate, 6...NxP/e4; would have probably equalized. (I know the theory of this system, you have to play d3 early on, to prevent just such a try.)
Dec-21-11  BOSTER: Looking at <GOTD> <b4 is Too Late> automatically creates the reaction,but "a4" just on time, deflecting the queen.But,of course, this idea is wrong.

Even the black has couple threats like Bxf2+,or cxb2 white has the forced line to win the game, and all black pieces on the queen's side only as spectators can see how their king swims to checkmate.

23.Qxh6+ gxh6
24.g7+ Kg8
25.Bh7+ in Marshall's style,but I don't like <swindels> strategy Kxh7 26.gxf8=Q+ Kg6
27.Rg7+ Kh5
28.Qf3+ Kh4
29.Qh3#.

Watching the game I saw 27.Qf7#.
Why I didn't see this? I completely forgot about g5 pawn.

<Once> When you here, I'm in fighting mood , when you are absent -something is desappeared too.

Dec-21-11  polarx: In response to the ones in favour of 23 Bb3:

23 Bb3 d5
24 Bxg5 Rf2

a) 25 Bxh6 Rf5
b) 25 Kh1 kinghunt
c) 25 Qxh6 White does not mate, Black's threatened discovered check is lethal.

I think. Did not check everything to the smallest detail though.

Dec-21-11  buster333: Once glad to see your back cg was missing something while you were gone
Dec-21-11
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  ajk68: Ugh. Saw the line up to the bishop sac deflection, but missed the fact that the pawn can take the rook and promote at f8 - and not just promote at g8 (to subsequently be captured by the king).
Dec-21-11
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  gawain: It looks like the only try that has any chance at all is 23 Qxh6+ gxh6 24 g7+. OK, then 24... Kg8 25 Bh7+ Kxh7 26 gxf8(Q)+. Then 26...Kg6 27 Qf7#. Did I miss anything?
Dec-21-11  Nullifidian: Mate in 5:

23. ♕xh6+ ♙gxh6 24. ♙g7+ ♔g8 25. ♗h7+ ♔xh7 26. ♙gxf8=♕+ ♔g6 27. ♕f7# with a dovetail mate.

Dec-21-11
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  Penguincw: Missed it completely.
Dec-21-11  galdur: 22. Re7 set up the mating combination, which black missed but after 22...Rfe8 there would have been something left for black.


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He´s a piece down for two pawns and prospects of a third one in white´s weak queen side. What to do with the white rook?

Black is certainly worse but still it would require some technique to bring him down. I know, computers wrap this up easily but between humans over the board it´s not that simple.

Dec-21-11  stacase: What a romp, that was great! I love that middle of the board mating net with the King's own pieces blocking his escape.
Dec-21-11
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  chrisowen: Go in e5 hat terrif chi laminate:

In ego for as high as Druklec get 2616 I think again queen

Dropping h6.

Nuisance in dam rook mad reunited absolute proof:

Keynes I and flow in irregular it bh7+ in river 25t having

Bishop pawn rook dangles inch e7:

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Dec-21-11  vanytchouck: Instinctively, i've looked for Qxg6 + (because 99.9999 % of puzzles starts with this kind of moves).

My first idea was Rh7 + and Bb3+ when i realized that it just looses a bishop ...

Then i saw g7+, Bh7+ and gxf7=Q + but somehow i didn't see at once that it was working as i didn't see that Kh8 was forbidden.

After some seconds, i've seen that Kxh7 is a forced move.

Dec-21-11  stst: Easy mating net after a few strokes:
23.Qxh6+ gxh6 (forced)
24.g7+ Kg8
25.Bh7+ Kxh7
26.gxf8 dis+ & P=Q, Kg6 <can resign at this point.> 27.Re6+ Kh5 (variations from this point)
28.Qf3+ Kh4
29.g3+ Kh3
30.Rxh6#
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