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Vicente Palermo vs Hector Rossetto
Mar del Plata (1965), Mar del Plata ARG, rd 1, Mar-19
Pirc Defense: Classical Variation. Quiet System Chigorin Line (B08)  ·  0-1



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Aug-09-10  Alphastar: <notyetagm> I'm still waiting for you to place some diagrams about how black <REMOVES THE GUARD> after <43. Rd6-c6??>.
Aug-09-10  SpoiltVictorianChild: kinda boring for a monday... saw it right away but then spent a few minutes looking to see if there was something else.
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  chrisowen: Bodacious Hector I'm not worthy rb4 and tedding returns. Rossetto stone the BC rows white is in denial. Fishing around Rc6 is the char on his game. Sticks the win i.e. achilles heel horse drops. Man you holding fast Palermo closed down rooks then blunders in. See ice robber bone of contention eureka Ra4-b4. The knight live rally it quickly get swop off.
Aug-09-10  randomsac: yay for free knights. After all, capturing the knight leaves <both> rooks en prise.
Aug-09-10  StevieB: Took me longer than it should, since I was looking for a mating combo. Really bugged me I couldn't find one, so I lower my expectations, and there it was! Gotta remember to do that.
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  benveniste: I couldn't analyze this problem deeply enough to find the queen sac. Is it really only Monday?
Aug-09-10  kevin86: Quite easy,black removes the rook's defender. White must lose a piece.

The desperado attempt 45 ♖xe6? falls to ♖xb2+ and fxe6-picking up BOTH rooks.

Aug-09-10  Ferro: FÁCIL Rxb4
Aug-09-10  mworld: <Once> its all about OPP :]
Aug-09-10  ThatsTriflin: Got it, but it took many minutes. OTB, I really think I would have had it in a matter of seconds, but I was misled by my own high expectations.

Kudos to for giving us a different kind of Monday puzzle.

Aug-09-10  ZUGZWANG67: Material is equal. The WK is relatively safe: the Rb2 does a good job protecting the 2nd rank and B lacks any follow up after either 1...h3+ or 1...Nf4+.

But here we may have a classical case of an IDP, that is, an inadequately defended piece with the Rc6. Its attaccked as much as it's defended and the defender itself is attacked as much as it's defended. This must be it.

43...Rxb4 and now W can't take both BRs in one move. B wins a piece.

In a subséquent post I give my own definition of an IDP. I'm working on it.


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  scormus: <ThatsTriflin> My sentiments exactly. I saw it quickly but then spent some time looking for something better.

One day youre over the moon after making a double piece sac that opens the door to #. Next week your opponent blunders away a pawn in a nothing position and you grind it out for a points a win (or he resigns at the adjournment)

Its a bit like real chess. Come to think, real life :-\

Aug-09-10  MaczynskiPratten: 43 Rc6 is an "oops" moment for White. In a position that by then looks utterly dead drawn.
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  Check It Out: 43...Rxb4 wins a piece. White probably resigned.
Aug-09-10  TheBish: V Palermo vs H Rossetto, 1965

Black to play (43...?) "Very Easy"

43...Rxb4! wins a piece. A funny variation where Black wins two rooks (!) goes 44. Rxe6?? Rxb2+ followed by taking the other rook.

Aug-09-10  Lil Swine: the opening is actually the nimzowich defence not the pirc
Aug-09-10  Ferro: RESULT GAFE
Aug-09-10  Ferro: GAFEEEEEEEE...
Aug-09-10  mig55: I take a piece from you, and you cannot take a peace back without letting me taking another peace from you....
Aug-09-10  wals: Very easy? Not for me. I didn't pick any of the following:-

Analysis by Rybka 3 1-cpu: depth 21:

1. (-4.09): 43...Rxb4 44.Rxb4[] Rxc6[] 45.gxh4 Rd6 46.Rb3 Rd2+ 47.Kh3 Nd4 48.Ra3 Kf6 49.Kg3 Nf5+ 50.Kh3 Rd4 51.Ra6+ Kg7 52.Ra2 Nxh4 53.Kg3 Nf5+ 54.Kh3 Rh4+ 55.Kg2[]

2. (-2.83): 43...h3+ 44.Kxh3[] Rxb4 45.Rxb4[] Rxc6[] 46.Rb2[] Rc3 47.Kg2 g5 48.Rd2 Nc5 49.Rd5 f6 50.Rd2 Nd3 51.Re2

3. = (-0.14): 43...Re3 44.Rc4 hxg3 45.hxg3 Ra5 46.Rd2 Rb3 47.Nc2 Ra2 48.f4 Ra5 49.Re2 Rd5 50.Rce4 g5 51.R4e3 Rb2 52.Nd4 Rxe2+ 53.Nxe2 g4 54.Kf2 Nc5 55.Ra3

4. = (-0.14): 43...Rca3 44.Rc4 hxg3 45.hxg3 Ra5 46.Rbc2 Re5 47.Rb2 Rb5 48.Re2 Rb7

5. = (-0.08): 43...Raa3 44.Rxc3 Rxc3[] 45.Nd5 Ra3 46.Kf2 g5 47.Ne3 Ra5 48.Nc4 Ra7 49.Ne3 Kg6 50.Nd5 Ra5 51.Rd2 f5

Aug-09-10  turbo231: got it it must be monday that's about the only day i get it i'm getting worse i think i'm being poisoned or losing my mind these headaches
Aug-09-10  Patriot: 43...Rxb4 removes the guard on c6. This seemed a bit trickier for a Monday since my attention was diverted to the white king.

<fyad reject> Keep practicing tactics. You might want to try "", which is a really good tactics site in my opinion.

Aug-09-10  thegoodanarchist: <benveniste> Funny!
Aug-09-10  WhiteRook48: 43...rxb4
ah... monday puzzles...
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  beenthere240: Without a queen to sac, I assumed it was Sunday and went back to bed.
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