|Feb-22-14|| ||Phony Benoni: I don't get thepun, so let's see what happens in the game. Uh-oh: U-12 World Championship. I'll be satisified with a lack of gross blunders and a cute finish.|
We do get that. Black seemed to play the game routinely and with a total lack of a sense of danger. Odd how he became the Grandmaster, while this is White's only game int he database.
An interesting collection could be complied of games where Q-KR1 following kingside castling comes to grief. Here's another: Y Alaa el Din vs Koneru, 2008
|Feb-22-14|| ||offramp: I don't get the pun either, but here's another: Petrosian vs Gligoric, 1970.|
|Feb-22-14|| ||Gregor Samsa Mendel: I believe that the pun is derived from "Parks and Recreation."|
|Feb-22-14|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: "Martian Recreation?" "Parks & Recreation?"|
|Feb-22-14|| ||FSR: <An Englishman> <Parks and Recreation> is an American TV show, quite popular I believe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parks... http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recrea... I haven't seen it either.|
|Feb-22-14|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni: ... An interesting collection could be complied of games where Q-KR1 following kingside castling comes to grief.>|
Petrosian vs Gligoric, 1970 is a famous example. I've also seen Ruy Lopez Marshall Attacks where White's queen ends up on h1. It's rarely pretty.
|Feb-22-14|| ||morfishine: A rare example here at <CG> where a player has one game in the database, and its an impressive win (even though its in the U12 class) against a future GM|
|Feb-22-14|| ||Tim Delaney: Black might well have resigned after 23. Nf1 as he must lose at least a piece (24. Qg6 is blindingly obvious) Without a vestige of counterplay, and in the face of a winning attack, it's time to bow out gracefully.|
|Feb-22-14|| ||Ratt Boy: Instead of 29.♖h4, I expected e6. I can't see any move by Black that would give him any chances. ♖h4 wins ♕ for ♖, but e6 seems to win a full ♖, while keeping alive some pretty vicious mate threats.|
When there are so many obviously winning moves available, it's clear that someone kept playing too long. Black could've resigned after 24.♕g6!, which wins a piece and yields no compensation.
|Feb-22-14|| ||JohnBoy: I would have been more than satisfied to play white's game as an 11yr old.|
|Feb-22-14|| ||kevin86: help! My queen is cornered!|
|Feb-22-14|| ||PJs Studio: 27. Re3 looks ok too?|
|Feb-22-14|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: <PJs Studio>, I had that thought as well, but didn't work it through.|
All -- "Parks and Recreation" is a fairly famous TV show. I haven't seen it, but Amy Poehler launched it around the time she was in the national news for her Hillary Clinton impersonations, which is how -- for example -- I heard of it.
And once one notices, it's the name of a municipal department in a lot of cities and towns (which is what the show is named after).
|Feb-22-14|| ||RedShield: It's a lousy rotten pun.|
|Feb-23-14|| ||FSR: <morfishine: A rare example here at <CG> where a player has one game in the database, and it's an impressive win ... against a future GM.> |
See also Dake vs T Kapfer, 1938 (0-1, 32).
|Feb-23-14|| ||Phony Benoni: <FSR> Regarding Dake vs T Kapfer, 1938, Thomas Kapfer has other games in the database.|
There must be plenty of examples from sinuls; Mieses vs A Fuchs, 1923 comes to mind. If you're restricting this to tournament play, here's a good one: W S Davis vs Fedorowicz, 1980
|Feb-23-14|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni> Woops! Of course, you're right. I was relying on a 2005 comment to the game I cited that remarked on Kapfer only having that one game in the database. Since I had myself cited another Kapfer game in a later comment, that obviously is no longer the case.|
As for simul games, Gligoric vs Holze, 1970 is a nice example of a win over a GM by a player who has no other games in the database.
|Feb-23-14|| ||FSR: Lasker vs J H Eastwood, 1892 is a decent simul win by a "one-gamer." A pedant might object that Lasker was not a "future GM." He already was surely an unofficial "grandmaster," given that Chessmetrics already ranks him No. 1 in the world in 1892. http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/... But he never was officially a grandmaster, since FIDE first awarded that title in 1950, and only to players who were still alive. So at the time of this game Lasker was either (a) already a "grandmaster" or (b) someone who would never become a grandmaster. (I discount, of course, the hoary tale, apparently concocted by Reinfeld, that Czar Nicholas designated Lasker and the other top finishers at St. Petersburg 1914 "grandmasters." http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...)|
|Feb-23-14|| ||Phony Benoni: <FSR> Certainly, in this sense, it's silly to be pedantic. To deny the GM designation to Lasker while awarding it to Mieses simply on the basis of better health is silly.|
We have Honorary Grandmasters titles for players who were past their pirme when the qualiification system was set up, such as Denker, Dake, and Koltanowski. Certainly such titles could be awarded to deceased playres as well. What are they worried about, diluting the title?
|Feb-23-14|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni> I suppose that FIDE officials don't want to have the disputes they'd have over whether such-and-such player deserved the title. And it would be a big headache assembling evidence - what tournaments did player X play in, what were his results, how strong were his opponents and so on. OTOH, Sonas has done most of that type of work already, so if they took Sonas' work and ran with it, maybe it wouldn't be as hard as all that. It always seemed criminal to me that Sultan Khan was never awarded any title.|
There's also the issue of what standards one should use: the 1950-type standards or the much looser standards of today? If you applied today's standards retroactively to everyone, a lot of IMs, such as I.A. Horowitz, would have be made GMs.
|Feb-23-14|| ||FSR: Here's another simul game that Lasker lost to an unknown: Riha vs Lasker, 1913. You may also have seen it in <Old In Chess>: http://oldinchess.blogspot.com/2013....|