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Frederick Rhine vs Sean Nagle
Chicago Open (1997), Chicago, Illinois, rd 5
Mexican Defense: General (A50)  ·  1-0



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Aug-04-12  JohnBoy: <FSR> - I must say that I really like blacks play up until the blunder on 27. <even a losing position may have defensive resources> - I hate that fact! But your off-polishing of Nagle once the door was cracked open is indeed sweet. A quick glance and I saw the solution, but mentally played 30.d7.
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  TheTamale: As a patzer, I am most amused by how Black is hosed by his pawn on e5, which blocks his rook from zipping in and helping stop the pawn.
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  kevin86: White sacs the queen and she comes Jason Voorhees.
Aug-04-12  Patriot: 28.d6+ Kf8 29.Qxa2 Qxa2 30.dxc7 Qa8 31.Rbc1 Qc8 32.Rgd1 Ke7 33.Rd8 Qxd8 34.cxd8=Q+ Kxd8 may be =. That's not bad considering black's mate threat starting with 28...Rxg2+.

How about 28.d6+ Kf8 29.Rbf1 Rxg2+ 30.Rxg2 Qxf1 31.Rxa2 Qf4+ 32.Qg3 ?

28...Kh8 29.Qxa2 Qxa2 30.dxc7 Qa8 31.Rgd1

Aug-04-12  Patriot: I missed a defense in the first variation: 28.d6+ Kf8 29.Qxa2? Qxa2 30.dxc7 Qc2 wins since 31.Rbc1 Rxg2+ 32.Rxg2 Qxc1 . But the second idea is correct here (29.Rbf1).
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  chrisowen: Have this one under my belt blacks 27...ra2 is horrific allowing

coup de grace d6+! first move then more to the point 29.Qxa2

beatiful sacrifice to regain the queen at c8 by dxc7 qc2 ra1 and

black is busted for the world. Amazing how quickly a game can turn

on its head ra2 looks natural but in fact he should have taken care

of king safety the simple 27...kh8 keeps winning advantage.

Aug-04-12  Marmot PFL: Unless I missed something it all looks rather forced for both sides- 28 d6+ Kh8 (Kf8 Rbf1) 29 Qxa2 Qxa2 30 dc7 Qc2 31 Ra1 (not Rc1? Rxg2+) followed by Ra8+ and c8(Q).
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  Jimfromprovidence: This was a fun puzzle; it's all forced but very educational.

I liked analyzing the differences between the winning 30 dxc7 vs the losing 30 d7.

I also went back to the puzzle position and took black's e pawn off of the board to see if that changes anything.

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Surprisingly, black is ahead in that position. It took me a while to figure out why that is.

Aug-04-12  bachbeet: not sure why Black resigned after Rf8 and not prior to that.
Aug-04-12  xthred: I got the first move. Yeah me!
Aug-04-12  newzild: I missed a similar combination in my very first tournament, against a 2200 player. After the game he spent half an hour pointing out all the flaws in my play. Only when I got home and fed the position into a computer did I realise I had built up a winning position.
Aug-04-12  morfishine: Nice story <newzild>!...So you play on ''? I play 5-min there under 'Morf'. Perhaps we can have a game?
Aug-04-12  stst: White tries to race through to promote the dP, and in between the complicated sequence, barely succeeds: 28.d6 dis+ (by Q) Kh8 (if Q interpose, another sequence, but will lead to a series of checks by White.) 29.Qxa2 (to dissolve the mate by force @g2) Qxa2
30.dxc7 (hurry up) Qc2 (try to guard the promotion.)
31.Rc1 (anti-guard) Rxg2+ (testing White's response, if K moves, will lose) 32.Rxg2 (exchange, for later good) Qxc1
33.Ra2 (critical, and only good spot)
IF (A)33... Qxc7; 34.Ra8+ Q interposing at back rank ==> lost, as 35.RxQ# IF (B)33... Qf4+ ; 34.Kg2 Qf8 guard back rank; 35.Rc2 to force promotion of P@c7.

If, as said, after 28.d6 dis+, if Black Q interposes via Qf7; then 29.dxc7 QxQ
30.c8=Q+ Kf7
31.Rf1+ Ke7
32.Qc7+ (then guards g2) Ke8
33.RxQ and Black can resign with only two rooks vs White's Q+2 rooks.

Aug-04-12  stst: <it's all forced but very educational.> Respectfully I would say the contra-converse:
"Very educational but NOT all forced."
The sequence given in the game should not be taken as immortal.
Aug-04-12  xthred: <morfishine> Just watched your chess cube game vs rafaeli on 6/27/12. Devastating!
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  agb2002: <chrisowen> This is the first time I fully understood your post. How odd... :-)
Aug-04-12  The Last Straw: Good job, <FSR> for solving this but I solved it too :).
Aug-04-12  I Love You: Okay, gotet this one again, discovered check d6+ :)
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  FSR: <perfidious: <FSR> On the topic of time shortage, was your opponent in time trouble here? It seems to me that it might have naive of him to think you would allow the apparently crushing idea 27....Ra2 if it were good.>

No, he was playing quickly and, up until 27...Ra2??, was hammering me. I wasn't "allowing" anything; he was dictating events and I was doing my best (which shouldn't have been nearly good enough) to survive. He was clearly very full of himself and had evidently decided that I was an idiot who could be thrashed without much thought on his part. (And, it is true, I can see how my play from move 14 on could have given him that impression. But it should have occurred to him that I probably couldn't have gotten a 2200+ rating without a <few> functioning neurons. And, for that matter, even fish can bite if you're careless.)

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  chrisowen: <agb2002> At jocular it escape in pleasing hosting for queen in!

skin dakota :)

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  agb2002: <chrisowen: <agb2002> At jocular it escape in pleasing hosting for queen in!

skin dakota :)>

Ahem... Back to normality... :)

Oct-03-14  bengalcat47: <whiteshark> Never trouble till trouble troubles you. Here is a nice little variation on this line:

Troubles when asleep are not to be disturbed.

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  FSR: Watch on the Rhine.
Nov-06-14  TheFocus: Hmmm. This Mr. Rhine seems to be a fine player.
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  FSR: <TheFocus> Not sure that this game is good evidence of that. The opening was interesting (Palliser discusses the game in his book <tango!>), and the swindle was nice, but my play in between was execrable. My excuse is that my opponent was really obnoxious, which threw me off.
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