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Andrew Burns vs George Hatfeild Gossip
Melbourne Chess Club Handicap Tournament (1885), Melbourne AUS
Tarrasch Defense: Symmetrical Variation (D32)  ·  1-0

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Sep-27-10  ughaibu: Anyone know what the handicap was?
Sep-27-10
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  whiteshark: User: FSR may know it
Sep-27-10  RandomVisitor: 16.Ng4 Ne4 17.Nxh6+ is good for white.
Sep-27-10
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  GrahamClayton: <ughaibu>Anyone know what the handicap was?

<ughaibu>,
I think that the handicap was with the scoring of the games, rather than odds.

Each player in the tournament was given a score, with the stronger players receiving a lower score, and the weaker players a larger score.

As soon as a player reached their score through a combination of losses and draws, they were eliminated from the tournament. eg a player with a score of 1 would be eliminated after either a loss, two draws or a loss and a draw.

Rounds would continue with the remaining players, with players being eliminated when their score was reached. I presume that the final 2 players would play each other until one was eliminated.

Sep-27-10  ughaibu: Thanks, an interesting idea.
Oct-12-10
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  GrahamClayton: The Melbourne Chess Club handicaps were not based on an elimination format, but were based on odds play.

In the 1867 handicap, Burns was the only player in Division 1A. His odds were to give the move to the players in Division 1B. The players in Div 1B would then give greater odds to the next division, and so on.

Oct-12-10  hedgeh0g: Maybe it was a tournament for handicapped people...
Apr-09-13  optimal play: <<The defeat of Mr. Gossip by Mr. Burns in the Melbourne tournament has apparently induced the English compiler to issue a challenge to play anyone in Australia a match for the sum of 10 or 50, man and money ready. Unfortunately, Mr. Burns is precluded by business from accepting the defi.,[?] but surely Messrs.* Esling, Fisher, Goldsmith, or Stanley will not allow the challenge to go begging. If so, we really must send someone from Sydney unless Mr. Gossip prefers to come here.>

- Australian Town and Country Journal, Saturday 13 June 1885>

*Messrs. Esling, Fisher, Goldsmith, or Stanley

Frederick Karl Esling

Charles M Fisher

Louis Goldsmith

John Shaw Stanley

Apr-09-13  JimNorCal: 22. Rxf6 is a gorgeous shot that caught me by surprise, but there are quicker mates, for example, 31. Qg6+ Kh8; 32. Qh6x

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