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Magnus Carlsen vs Viswanathan Anand
Grand Slam Chess Final (2010), Bilbao ESP, rd 2, Oct-10
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense (C65)  ·  0-1



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Oct-17-10  Eyal: <however pinch me - am I dreaming? why not 33.g4 Bc6 ( or maybe c8) 34.gx[N]f5 Bx[N]e4 35.d5!!>

Simply 33...Nxd4 and Black is winning.

Oct-18-10  znsprdx: My 33.g4 stands but I have no computer analysis - just practical chess sense) <Eyal: Simply 33...Nxd4 and Black is winning.>

simple? hardly: 34.b7
and either knight to c6 ....34.Bd5 and Black is in a kind of zugswang due to White's unstoppable Nc5

All this nonsense about Carlsen being out of form ...this was a very double-edged position

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  tamar: No zugzwang, Black always has the back rank, as in the game.

33 g4 Nxd4 34 b7 Nec6 35 Bd5 Nb8

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Guards the bishop and the pawn on a6, so 36 Nc5 has no point, and White is beaten back.

Oct-18-10  Eyal: ...Or 34...Ndc6 and then Bd5 isn't even an option; 35.Ba4 (or Nc5) Nb8 and again Black is fine.
Oct-20-10  SharpAttack: <notyetagm> LOL!
Oct-20-10  whiteshark: <notyetagm: <It seems like Carlsen has lost more games the past 2 weeks than the past 3 years *combined*.>> He has a lot of catching-up to do ...
Oct-21-10  DarthStapler: Carlsen may be the world's highest rated player, but Anand is the World Champion, and here he shows why
Oct-23-10  Albertan: I allowed Stockfish 1.8 JA 64 bit to analyze this game on my quad core compute for 2 hours. I have added comments using Chessbase 10 and Chessbase Megadatabase and posted this analysis to my blog at using the program Chessviewer Deluxe. This is game number number 23 in the Chessviewer Deluxe game index. I hope you drop by and play through this analysis which is on the first page of my blog.
Nov-10-10  xombie: <@Udit Narayan> I can scarcely say, but is this the dude from IIT Madras' 05? If so, hi (can't ping in his forum and hence a random troll message!).
Dec-31-10  talisman:'s ok...let him quit...... after this right??... isn't that what bobby would do? ...well maybe for 2,500 different reasons.
Mar-17-12  Savarkar 22: So long as Carlsen doesn't get better of Anand in the Classical format,I wudnt pitch for him to be someone who's better than Kasparov( many ppl seem to feel like that)
May-12-12  PinnedPiece: GTM Score=73 Par 69

I made some bad moves! Ran out of time, however.

Mar-21-13  sorinch: The final position deserves a brief analysis:
46. Ke4 Bc4 47. b8Q Nb8 48. Nb8 Kc7 and white N is trapped; 47. Kd3 Bd5 and then :
48. Kc3 Bg2 -> f1, or
48. b8Q Nb8 49. Nb8 Bb7 50. Kd4 Kc7 51. Ke5 Kb8 a.s.o
Apr-01-13  birthtimes: 33. d5 Bc8 34. g4 Nd4 35. Nd6 Bb7 36. Nxb7 Nc8 37. d6 Nxb6 38. Ba2 Kf8 39. Kg3 Ke8 40. Kf4 Nb5 41. Kf5 Nc3 42. Bb3 Nb5 43. Ke4 Kd7 44. Bxf7 Kc8 45. d7+ Nxd7 46. Be6 Kxb7 47. Bxd7 DRAW
Jul-17-13  notyetagm: Note that the above referenced link to the Monokroussos analysis that I quoted above is *still* valid:

Jul-17-13  notyetagm: Carlsen vs Anand, 2010


47 ... Nc6-b8! possible as 48 Na6xNb8 Bd5xb7 traps offside b8-N

Oct-27-13  Garech: Is this Anand's most recent win against Carlsen at standard time controls?


Oct-27-13  Kinghunt: <Garech: Is this Anand's most recent win against Carlsen at standard time controls?>

Almost, but not quite. Anand vs Carlsen, 2010 was played about two months later. These are the only two games Anand has won against Carlsen at classical time controls since Carlsen turned 18 (fall 2008).

Both of these also happened to be played when Carlsen was going through a rough patch and losing games left and right. In the last six months of 2010, Carlsen lost 7 games, including to Adams, McShane, Jobava, and Sjugirov. For comparison, in the last <two years>, Carlsen has only lost six games.

Oct-28-13  Garech: Aha, thanks <Kinghunt>, I appreciate it a lot.


Oct-28-13  coolchess1: @Kinghunt -- In the same phase, how many did Carlsen win against Anand in classical controls, I bet it would be same or less?

Carlsen cannot defeat Anand easily like he has done others. I expect a tough match here, and probably favour Anand to win.

Oct-29-13  Kinghunt: <coolchess1> Carlsen beat Anand three times in that period. Here is the breakdown:

Wijk an Zee 2009: Carlsen wins
Bilbao 2010: Anand wins
London 2010: Anand wins
Bilbao 2012: Carlsen wins
Tal Memorial 2013: Carlsen wins

There are, of course, a ton of draws in there (15, in total). It's hard to tell if this is meaningful or just statistical noise, but in the last two years, their head-to-head score is +2 -0 =5 in favor of Carlsen. But enough has been said about the decisive games, here's my brief take on each of the draws:

In Anand vs Carlsen, 2011, Anand makes "a fingerfehler" (his words) with 17. Rfc1, while still in theory, resulting in almost immediate liquidation into a dead-drawn ending.

In Anand vs Carlsen, 2012, Carlsen was better for much of the game, but Anand was never in serious danger of losing.

In Carlsen vs Anand, 2012, Anand got an advantage out of the opening, but Carlsen recovered and pressed for much of the rest of the game.

In Carlsen vs Anand, 2013, Carlsen outplayed Anand, but missed a likely win on move 27. See the game page for analysis on this claim.

In Anand vs Carlsen, 2013, neither player went for much of a fight. A Petroff shortly led to massive liquidation, with few winning chances.

An even briefer summary of the draws:
2 non-games
2 fighting draws
1 missed win for Carlsen

Oct-29-13  fgh: <Wijk an Zee 2009: Carlsen wins>

It was Linares, actually.

Oct-29-13  Kinghunt: <fgh> I stand corrected, thank you. That's what I get for not looking up what I think I remember.
Oct-29-13  coolchess1: Okay nothing spectacular results for Carlsen. 3-2 in whatever period you have had with many draws.

I just want Carlsen to be defeated in this match.

Oct-29-13  Kinghunt: <coolchess1: Okay nothing spectacular results for Carlsen. 3-2 in whatever period you have had with many draws.>

Well, I would call +2 -0 =4 (67%) in the last year pretty spectacular.

<I just want Carlsen to be defeated in this match.>

And I just want... one million dollars.

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