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Eduard Gufeld vs Lutz Espig
Leipzig (1980), Leipzig GDR, Dec-??
Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen Variation. Matanovic Attack (B82)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jan-02-11  hedgeh0g: One of the more difficult puzzles I've seen. Didn't even come close.
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  LIFE Master AJ: I looked at it for about 10 minutes ... and gave up. (I was looking for a win, not a draw.)
Jan-02-11  ounos: <David2009: Gufeld vs L Espig, 1980 White 25? Level material> Count again!
Jan-02-11  harish22: A lot of hoopla to get a simple draw against a lower rated player. The Rg7 sac followed by perpetual is a common trap.

The concept of interference with Rf5 to eliminate the light square bishop is nice. The follow up with Nd6 though is what makes this combo work. This move threatens Rh3 by cutting of the f7 square. It forces Bd6 which relives the g5 square for the follow up perpetual.

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  scormus: As soon as I saw the position I thought, "great, surely I can find the win in this position. I'll get a Sunday POTD for the first time in many months."

I spent about an hour and for a while I thought I had it, but kept finding defences for B. When some of them turned out winning for B I decided it was time I gave up.

My initial optimism doesnt say much for my positional judgement. Apart from the position of W's minor pieces too far away from the action, the sight of BQ and B spearing down the long diagonal should have given it away.

How W must have wished his K wasnt on h1. Probably wished he hadnt offered the Greek gift as well.

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  Domdaniel: I'd seen this game before, so I didn't have to distort my braincells attempting the impossible. Gufeld's amazing 25.Rf5 initiates a sequence of blockages, decoys and miscellaneous sacs ... and is the only way to draw.

If somebody finds a win, I'll eat my LSB.

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  Jimfromprovidence: I think you might get more than one consolation point if you can figure out why after the text 26...exf5, below,...

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....why white has to play 27 Nd6 first and not 27 Rxg7+ folllowed by 28 Nd6.

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  Domdaniel: The ratings attributed to both players in the game score (Gufeld, 2565 and Espig, 2364) are incorrect. They seem to be based on later ratings, not the ones active when the game was played. Errors of this kind occur in far too many of the games in the CG database.

One small hint is that in 1980 FIDE ratings changed in 5-point increments, so that Espig could have been 2365, but not 2364.

According to Chessbase, Gufeld was 2510 in 1980, and Espig was 2440.

Jan-02-11  Patriot: This was over my head. I noted black was up a piece so it's more likely he could give it back at some point. I thought 25.Rf6 might be interesting but really didn't know how to proceed after 25...g6. 25.Rxg7+ looks faulty because the bishop can go to g6 to defend. 25.Rh3 looks tempting but 25...Bxg2+ puts an end to that.

It doesn't surprise me that white went for a draw, being down a piece and no sure way of getting it back. The only thing surprising is that it looks like white has a great kingside attack but there doesn't seem to be a way to achieve it.

Jan-02-11  mooseheadchris: Could anyone tell me why this doesn't work?? I was looking at 25. Nxe6

1) 25... fxe6 26. Rxf8+ with mate after Qh8+ and Rxg7#

2) 25... Nxe6 26. Bxe7 Re8 27. Rxg7+ Kxg7 28. Bf6+ with mate at Qh8

in this second variation other moves at 26... such as f6 or g6 Rxc2 all seem to lead to the same result.

3) 25... Bh7 is met with 26. Rh3

I mean, my solutions look pretty simple for a Sunday puzzle, so I guess I'm just not seeing the defensive resource for black. Anyone see it?

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  Sastre: <mooseheadchris> 25.Nxe6 fxe6 26.Rxf8+ Rxf8 is good for Black.
Jan-02-11  WhiteRook48: I tried to win, so I didn't get it. I tried 25 Rxg7+?? followed by 25 Rf4
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  Penguincw: I was thinking about Nf3.

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Jan-02-11  M.Hassan: "Insane" White to play 25.?
White is a Bishop down.
I did not get any sound results by Rook movement and Bishop movement. i concluded that for as long as Black bishops are stationed where they are, White hardly can make any effective work. I then diverted to Knight movement:

25.Nd6 and hoping it get eliminated and I thought it IS likely 25..............Bxd6
26.exd6 Qd5
27.Qh4 so, one Bishop eliminated and Queen is aiming for second one 27..............Qxd4
28.Bc3 Bxg2+
29.Kxg2 Qxh4!!! second Bishop eliminated as well as the hunter!! 30.Rxg7+ Kh8
<31.Rg4+ to get Black Queen Kh7 32.Kxh4+ but White likely looses on grounds of inferior materials> another way is:

30.Rxg7+ Kh8
31.Rxf7+ Kg8
32.Rg7+ Kg8

Jan-02-11  Tigranny: Forced perpetual check draw?
Jan-02-11  Eyal: <Jimfromprovidence: I think you might get more than one consolation point if you can figure out why after the text 26...exf5 ....

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why white has to play 27 Nd6 first and not 27 Rxg7+ folllowed by 28 Nd6.>

Yes, that's quite a remarkable line as well: 27.Rxg7+? Kxg7 28.Nd6 - now Black must defend f5, so 28...Qe4!! (28...Bxd6? transposes to the game, allowing 29.Qg5+ with perpetual) - White has sacrificed so much material that Black can definitely afford giving the queen back; 29.Nxe4 Nxe4 30.Bxe7 Nd5! (now it's necessary to defend against Nf6+) 31. Bxf8+ Rxf8 and Black is winning; 32.Qxf5 loses to Rb8! both vacating f8 so that the king can escape queen checks, and creating mating threats - White must either get mated or lose the queen, e.g. 33.Qf1 Nd2 & Rb1, or 33.g3 Ne3, or 33.h3 Ng3+.

Jan-02-11  1.e4effort: hmm, 25.Qh6 followed by 26.Rf4 and the 27.Rh4 and it's over. Oh, black gets to move, too?!?! Like most everyone else i couldn't quite get this one.
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  agb2002: White is a bishop down.

Black threatens 25... Bg6, dislodging the white queen and ... Nd5 controlling important squares like f4 and f6.

The knight on b5 can be incorporated into attack with 25.Nd6, with multiple threats (Rxf7, Nxc8, Nd4f5, etc.):

A) 25... Bg6 26.Nxc8

A.1) 26... Bxh5 27.Nxe7+ Kh7 28.Bxc5 [R+N vs Q] is unclear but the black king is still in danger.

A.2) 26... Rxc8 27.Qg4 and White has recovered some material and threatens h4-h5.

B) 25... Bxd6 26.Nf5

B.1) 26... Bxe5 27.Ne7#.

B.2) 26... exf5 27.Rxg7+ Kxg7 28.Qg5+ Kh7(8) 29.Rf4 and mate in two.

B.3) 26... Bxf5 27.Rxf5 exf5 28.Rxg7+ (28.Rh3 f6 29.e6 Nxe6, this suggests Bxc5 in a previous move) Kxg7 29.Qg5+ and perpetual.

The note in the line B.3 leads to consider 25.Bxc5 with the idea 25... Rxc5 26.Nd6 Bxd6 27.Nf5 Bxf5 28.Rxf5 exf5 29.Rh3 f6 30.e6 and mate soon.

I don't know, I'm rather tired to work out the variations today.

Jan-02-11  wals: Rybka 4 x 64


WHITE: depth : 16 : 5 min :
(-0.40):19.e5. Best, f5, +1.17.

1. (1.17): 19.f5 e5 20.f6[] gxf6 21.Nf5[] Rc6 22.Qg4[] Nbd7 23.Bc4 Rf8[] 24.Ba5 Bd8 25.Bxd8 Kxd8 26.Rd1 Ba6[] 27.Nfxd6 Bxb5 28.Nxb5 Ke7 29.Nc3 Rg8 30.Qf5 Rg7 31.Nxa4 Ne6 32.Bb3

2. = (0.12): 19.Qg4 0-0 20.f5 Nbd7 21.fxe6 Ne5 22.Qh3 Ncxd3 23.cxd3 Ba6 24.Nf5 Bf6 25.d4 Qxb5 26.dxe5 fxe6 27.Nh6+ gxh6 28.exf6 Rf7 29.Bxd6 Qd7 30.e5 Bxf1 31.Rxf1 Qb5 32.Re1 Qa5 33.Qg4+

WHITE: depth : 18 : 3 min :
(-2.52):21.Bxh7+. Best, Ba3, -1.10.

BLACK: depth : 17 : 3 min :
(=0.00):23...Qa8. Best, f6, -2.52.

and bang goes the game for Black.

24.Rg3 consolidated the draw for White.

Jan-02-11  David2009: Gufeld vs L Espig, 1980 postscript: Did Black miss an earlier win with 23...f5?

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(Gufeld vs L Espig, 1980 21?) Inputting this position into Crafty End Game Trainer, link the EGT defends against the game line 21.Bxh7+ Kxh7 22.Qh5+ Kg8 23.Re3 with 23...f5. Fritz 6 likes 24 exf6 but Crafty EGT does not allow en passant captures by White, so I input the position after 24...Bxf6 into Crafty EGT [link Playing out against Fritz 6, we get the following spirited line: 23...f5 24.exf6 Bxf6 25.Rh3 Be4 26.Nc6 Rxc6 27.Bxc5 Rxc5 28.Qxc5 Be7 29.Qg1 Nd5 30.Nc3 Bc5 31.Rxf8+ Qxf8 32.Qd1 Nxc3 33.Rxc3 Qf2 34.Rg3 a3 35.Rg4 Qxc2 0-1

Thus, the material deficit after 21 Bxh7+ was too much for Fritz 6 to overcome. However, playing the position at move 21 against the EGT without this sacrifice, Fritz 6 gets its revenge starting 21 c3:

Fritz 6 vs Crafty EGT (Gufeld vs L Espig, 1980 starting from White 21?) 21.c3 Nxd3 22.Qxd3 Bxb4 23.cxb4 Nc4 24.Qg3 Ba6 25.Nc3 Qxb4 26.Rf4 Rfd8 27.Rg4 g6 28.Ne4 Qb6 29.Nf3 Bb7 30.Nf6+ Kf8 31.Nxh7+ Kg7 32.Qf4 Bxf3 33.gxf3 Qf2 34.Reg1 Nxe5 35.Qxe5+ Kxh7 36.Qf6 Rg8 37.Rh4+ Qxh4 38.Qxh4+ Kg7 39.Qd4+ Kh7 40.Rg4 Rg7 41.Qxa4 Rd8 42.Rh4+ Kg8 43.Rh6 g5 44.h4 gxh4 45.Qxh4 Rd1+ 46.Kh2 Rg6 47.Rh8+ Kg7 48.Qh7+ Kf6 49.Ra8 Rd2+ 50.Kh3 Rd3 51.Qh4+ Rg5 52.Qf4+ Rf5 53.Qh6+ Ke5 54.Qh8+ Kf4 55.Qh4+ Kxf3 56.Qg3+ Ke4 57.Ra4+ Rd4 58.Qg4+ Rf4 59.Rxd4+ 1-0

Black's moves are generated by the first of the two EGT links given above.

POSTSCRIPT: <wals> has posted similar lines generated by <Rybka 4 x 64 >. It is interesting that Rybka-3 considers Black better at move 21 and gives 21 Ba3 as white's best shot. Fritz 6 meets both 23...f6 and 23...f5 with 24.exf6.

Jan-03-11  RandomVisitor: in addition to <wals> posting, 18.f5 also appears to be good for white:

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[+1.54] d=18 18.f5 e5 19.f6 gxf6 20.Nf5 Rc6 21.Rfd1 h5 22.Nxe7 Kxe7 23.Nxd6 Rxd6 24.Bb5

Jan-03-11  Quentinc: Too late to the party, but I had convinced myself that 25. Bxc5 Rxc5 26. Rf6 Bg6 and then the "spectacular" 27. Nxe6 won. It would be nice to have an engine at a time like this.
Jan-03-11  bongaudio: I got this alternative line, id like to know if it works:

25.Qh6 g6 (responding to 26.Qxg7# threat)

26.Bxc5 Rxc5 (white removes a defender of e6, 26...Rxc5 seems just as good as 26...Bxc5)

27.Nxe6 fxe6 (replying to 28.Qg7# threat)

28.Rxg6+ Bxg6

29.Qxg6+ Kh8 1/2 1/2

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  Phony Benoni: <bongaudio> 25.Qh6 hasn't been analyzed much so far, but others have noted that 25...Bg6 seems a sufficient answer.

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Black's g-pawn is unpinned, and if 26.Rxg6 fxg6 Black is suddenly threatening mate as well.

Jan-03-11  bongaudio: thank you <Phony Benoni>. I missed 25...Bg6, seems really strong! Thnak you for replying.
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