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Luke McShane vs Vladimir Kramnik
London Chess Classic (2010), London ENG, rd 3, Dec-10
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Dec-10-10  rapidcitychess: <BobCrisp> Ease?? Really?
Dec-10-10  acirce: <rapidcitychess> Well, yeah. But obviously Kramnik has the right to test him, and very few players wouldn't.
Dec-10-10  rapidcitychess: Draw... :(
Dec-10-10  lost in space: Nice way to teh draw
Dec-10-10
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  WinKing: Textbook defense. Kudo's to McShane!
Dec-10-10
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Dec-10-10  BobCrisp: That guy in the auditorium with the plastic bag can go home now.
Dec-10-10  scormus: Salutations to both players, tremendous sustained concentration and determination. If ever a draw was well deserved it was this. And to all the CG anoraks who stuck it out as well.
Dec-10-10  David2009: 134 Rb7! (Ra8? -M19) Both sides are playing this difficult theoretical draw excellently: Kramnik's traps are worth careful study. 136 Ra6 is forced: what has Kramnik in mind? 137..what - we have seen this before more or less. Final position: DRAW - well played both sides! Did both sides miss wins? McShane earlier before 58 Bb8? and Kramnik at move 61 - see McShane vs Kramnik, 2010
Dec-10-10  Ulhumbrus: Be it noted that having passed the test against one of the stiffest examiners in the world, Vladimir Kramnik, Luke McShane hath gained the distinction of being admitted into the guild and worshipful company of successful defenders of a Rook versus a Rook and Bishop ending.
Dec-10-10  AgentRgent: I wonder how my idea of 66...Rf8 works. Anyone want to see what their engine has to say? (I know engines aren't exactly the best endgame judges, but better than nothing I guess)
Dec-10-10
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  OhioChessFan: Fritz10 goes for 66...Rf8 immediately. Evals out at -1.30 or so.
Dec-10-10
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  OhioChessFan: Fritz10 goes for 66...Rf8 immediately. Evals out at -1.30 or so. 66...Kxf7 gets a yellow light immediately, with evals starting out about -.70.
Dec-11-10  AgentRgent: <OhioChessFan: Fritz10 goes for 66...Rf8 immediately. Evals out at -1.30 or so.> Thanks for checking it. At the time I was thinking that black HAD to maintain a pawn in order to win, and so Rf8 served a dual purpose role of capturing the White pawn on f7 and in so doing protecting Black's f pawn. Scary that I saw something in an endgame that Kramnik did not... (admittedly I hadn't been playing for 66 moves already!)
Dec-11-10
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  HeMateMe: Is this a table base win, R + B v. R? Or, does the defender have a draw, with best play? I always thought its a forced win, but not one error can be made, in setting up the mate.
Dec-11-10
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  whiteshark: Just the right amount of wrong.
Dec-11-10  scormus: <AgentRgent> I was expecting the same at the time, but afterwards I wondered if he felt his chances were better not losing the tempi. Anyone know if they commented on that at the Press interview?

He certainly put a lot of pressure on Luke who must be congratulated on surviving.

Dec-11-10
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  pawn to QB4: <Anyone know if they commented on that at the Press interview?> don't think there's been one so far: at about 8 30 the commentary room shut up shop and the spectators drifted away. I was ushered into about the last lift out, along with Viktor Korchnoi, who'd been following the latter stages of this game with such enthusiasm that they'd never have got him out if there was much more to see.
Dec-11-10  BobCrisp: <I was ushered into about the last lift out, along with Viktor Korchnoi...>

It's as if your whole life was merely a preamble to this moment - come on, hit us with it, what did you say or do in those few seconds when it was just you and him between floors?

Dec-11-10
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  pawn to QB4: Nah, there were about ten of us crammed in and I could hardly buttonhole a bloke who was chatting with his wife. The big moment was last year when I opened a door a bit quick and nearly clattered Magnus Carlsen with it.
Dec-11-10  BobCrisp: Earlier today, a postman ran into my leg with his trolley. "Sorry", he said, as he removed his headphones, "I was miles away." Bastard.

At last year's event, <Magnus>'s dad sat next to me in the commentary room as the boy wonder talked over his game with <Adams>.

Dec-11-10
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  pawn to QB4: Ah well, at least you got an apology from the postie. I must admit I faded into the woodwork or I might be telling a tale of how Carlsen once spoke to me: "wow pawn, <your whole life was merely a preamble to this moment > what did he say?" "Watch what you're doing with that door you eejit".
Dec-11-10  BobCrisp: These things, of course, make a bigger impression when you're young. I've crossed paths with so many celebrities now that I'm quite blase about it. After all, I'm superior to them, right?
Dec-11-10
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  pawn to QB4: I went to the Classic with a friend who'd agree entirely. At about move 30 he allowed Luke McShane to hold a door open while he walked through without a word of acknowledgement. This time I got it right, stood aside and pointed out to my pal that chess players normally go through a door in order of grading, leaving aside the point that McShane was engaged in a crucial game and we weren't. Of course, he told me that at least he hadn't tried to clobber the guy.
Dec-14-10  Kinghunt: Has anyone run the bishop and rook versus rook ending through a tablebase to doublecheck black didn't have a missed win anywhere?
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