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| Jan-20-11 | | Bobwhoosta: Seriously!?!?!?!?
THIS is what the Sofia rules are all about, and I'm more in favor of them EVERYDAY now!!!! |
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Jan-20-11
 | | Domdaniel: Naka would never have escaped with these half points in the bad old days of adjournments. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Ulhumbrus: <Eyal> <AdrianP> I saw your messages after having sent mine. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Ulhumbrus: Perhaps either player thought that he risked losing the game if he attempted to win it. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Ulhumbrus: <chessgames.com> Are you going to switch to another game? |
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| Jan-20-11 | | AdrianP: OK - someone refute 43. ... Nxc4 44 Qc1 Kg7 for me. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Chesschatology: THIS IS LAME |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Ulhumbrus: In the final position after 44 Qc1 White threatens Nf6 followed by Qg5. What is Black going to do in order to answer the threat? |
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| Jan-20-11 | | AdrianP: <Ulhumbrus> If there's nothing better, Black can just play ...Rh8 to meet the threat of Nxh5 and does White have anything? |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Ulhumbrus: In the final position after 44 Qc1 Black may try to answer the threat of Nf6+ followed by Qg5 by 44...d5 45 cxd5 Rxc2 46 Qxc2 Bxd5. This suggests that either player thought that he risked losing the game if he attempted to win it. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | patzer2: I'm glad my fellow American Nakamura held the draw. However, Ponomariov should have pressed his advantage. After 44. Qc1 Bxc4! 45. Bxc4 Nxc4 46. Rxc4 Rxc4 47. Qxc4 d5 48. Qd3 dxe4 49. Qxe4 Rd4  Black is up a solid pawn in a Queen and Pawn game with no weaknesses. A win isn't sure or easy, but Black has all the advantages and nothing to lose by pressing for the win. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Ulhumbrus: <AdrianP: <Ulhumbrus> If there's nothing better, Black can just play ...Rh8 to meet the threat of Nxh5 and does White have anything?> One possibility is h4, Rh2, and g4. However this needs looking at further, besides which after the pawn advance ...d5 Black may be able to pin the N by ...Bd5 and avoid everything, but this needs looking at further as well. My present guess is that either player thought that he risked losing the game if he attempted to win it. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | AdrianP: <My present guess is that either player thought that he risked losing the game if he attempted to win it.> If that was a reason to draw then why start a game of chess at all...! |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Ulhumbrus: <chessgames.com> Are you going to switch to another game, or is the present transmission going to end for today? |
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Jan-20-11
| | Domdaniel: <Adrian> - < someone refute 43. ... Nxc4 44 Qc1 Kg7 for me.>
As Eyal said, 43...Bxc4 would've been better, to exchange Bishops. But after 43...Nxc4 44.Qc1 Kg7 it seems White can play 45.Rcf2, despite the apparent discovered attack on the Queen. Fritz then suggests 45...Bd5, pinning the N. And a few ways to draw, eg 46.Rf6 Bxe4+ 47.Bxe4 Qxf6 48.Rxf6 Kxf6 49.Qh6 =. One would imagine that *either* White has a winning attack *or* Black's central pawns will win the ending, but this seems finely balanced between the two. I suppose that's where the mutual fear factor comes in. |
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Jan-20-11
| | Domdaniel: It actually looks like a draw was the 'correct' result ... but maybe they could have played another 6 or 7 moves to make it clearer. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | turbo231: I see penetration by white, in chess that is usually a good thing. Albeit slight penetration, penetration none the less. |
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Jan-20-11
| | Domdaniel: I'm reminded of a story about the young Kasparov, rising star of Russian chess in the early 80s, being sternly told by a soviet apparatchik, "We already have a world champion, we don't need another one". Here, the eager young Knight wants to take the c-pawn, pointing out that Black would then have a passed d-pawn. But the apparatchik points to e5 and says "We already have a passed pawn ..." |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Eyal: <patzer2: I'm glad my fellow American Nakamura held the draw. However, Ponomariov should have pressed his advantage. After 44. Qc1 Bxc4! 45. Bxc4 Nxc4 46. Rxc4 Rxc4 47. Qxc4 d5 48. Qd3 dxe4 49. Qxe4 Rd4 Black is up a solid pawn in a Queen and Pawn game with no weaknesses.> White can do better with 46.Ng5! with threats on the f-file and f7; probably should be drawn. Btw, 43...Bxc4 would indeed force the exchange of bishops since 44.Qc1?? would then lose to 44...Bxd3! 45.Rxc7 Bxe4+ 46.Kg1 Rd7. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Eyal: FWIW, the Rybka evaluation of the final position on chessok goes:
click for larger view <44. Nf6 Rf8 45. Rcf2 Bxc4 46. Qb1 Rcc8 47. Bxc4 Nxc4 48. Qc1 Qxf6 49. Rxf6 Rxf6 50. Rxf6 Kxf6 51. Qd1 Kg7 52. Qd5 Rc7 53. Qe4 Kf7 54. Qf3+ Kg8 55. Qd3 Kh7 56. Qf3 Kg7 57. Qe4 Kf7 58. Qf3+ Kg8 59. Qd3 -0.33> In this line, Black pretty much has to part with the queen for the rook and knight on move 48, otherwise White would get to play Qg5 & Nxh5+. |
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| Jan-20-11 | | Ulhumbrus: On 44 Qc1 Bxc4 45 Nf6 Rdc8 46 Rxc4! Nxc4 47 Qg5 threatens 48 Qxg6+ in addition to 48 Nxh5+. |
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| Jan-21-11 | | kellmano: Is it just me, or do the Sofia rules seem more and more attractive these days. Tournaments with them - every game played out. Tournaments without - anticlimaxes like this. Understandable for the players, but very dissapointing. |
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| Jan-21-11 | | Monoceros: <kellmano: Is it just me, or do the Sofia rules seem more and more attractive these days. Tournaments with them - every game played out.> To a perpetual check. |
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| Jan-22-11 | | acirce: Or just a repetition.
For instance, here it could have ended 38..Qd4 39.Rd1 Qe5 1/2-1/2 |
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Mar-16-11
 | | Penguincw: I think the rating for Nakamura is wrong.Time for a correction slip. |
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