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Veselin Topalov vs Gata Kamsky
"Tartar Sauce" (game of the day Dec-15-2011)
World Championship Candidates (2011), Kazan RUS, rd 1, May-06
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange Variation (D85)  ·  0-1



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Well, first I think it's wrong to think of 1. ... d5 as the only valid or standard reply to White opening with 1.d4.

I guess in the end it all comes down to tastes and strategy, but to be more concrete:

Looking at Gata's games it seems he's quite capable and comfortable with the Gruenfeld; playing it a lot.

So it seems quite logical for him - as in this game - to choose the Gruenfeld, or Gruenfeld-like approaches to the opening.

Hope this helps <Pokerpro>

P.S.: Please go easy on the caps.

Jun-05-11  PokerPro: ok good and solid game by kamsky....however i have 2 queries..i hope they go answered..firstly why did kamsky play 17..qc8 instead of 17..rc8 and secondly why is 6...e4 not chosen instead of 6..d4...thanks a lot in advance
Jun-05-11  bronkenstein: @ PokerPro , 6.e4? c5! , and white will have trouble with going d4 .

And Qc8 is preparing Kf7 . Black wants to connect his rooks with Kf7 , but if he goes Kf7 first , tactics like Rxh6 Rxh6 Ng5 fxg Nxg5 and king has to go on f6 are to be checked , immediately or after some white preparatory moves (have in mind that Topalov is an excellent attacker , one has to play very cautiously against him ).

So he is simply depriving white of his last hopes for complications in order to change the course of the game . And white should be pretty desperate and ready for anything @ that point already.

Jun-06-11  PokerPro: bronkenstein thx alot..
Jun-24-11  Bondsamir: everything was arranged by fide to make gelfand proceed to the final , such a shameful and ugly rigging by fide . it is not a sport it is corropt dirty deal
Jun-24-11  polarmis: They also shot JFK... by the way, in the press conference after the match Topalov said he simply forgot the line his seconds had prepared for this game - on the second move (of the line). Not sure exactly what he was referring to, but it explains the total disaster!
Jun-25-11  sevenseaman: 28...Rxc5 is quite a move by Kamsky. It precedes an esoteric (and powerful)sequence.

Kamsky executed the end game aesthetically. It would make for a very tantalizing POTD, I think .

Dec-15-11  xthred: I guess even a GM can have a brain freeze.
Dec-15-11  Oceanlake: Seldom castle queenside unless one has control of the center and superior development.
Dec-15-11  ZeejDonnelly: This just doesn't look like the Topalov that put Anand under so much pressure just a little while ago. It's interesting, because I have the same kinds of "bad days" with chess... I usually have to take a week off after a particularly demoralizing game. When I first learned the rules, I just couldn't believe that psychology could play such a huge role; how wrong I was.
Dec-15-11  King Death: This is just another Grunfeld that needs to be reclassified (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Nf3 Bg7 Nd5 6.Qb3 Nb6)

< sevenseaman: ...Topalov ignored the pernicious pin for too long...>

"(The) pernicious pin". I like that!

A long time ago, I tried this out with 8.Qc2. Topalov's a great player, but I don't understand 8.Qa3, even though I don't think White gets any advantage either way. It's just a good way to avoid all of the booked up main lines.

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  Richard Taylor: Wh- Wh- Wha- what ha- hap- happened?!!
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  HeMateMe: Black seemed to play like Kasparov, constantly grabbing the initiative and inducing weaknesses in the enemy camp.
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  Penguincw: A pretty sad upset. :(
Dec-15-11  King Death: <Penguincw> Do you really consider a difference of 43 rating points an upset?
Dec-15-11  Whitehat1963: <<Penguincw> Do you really consider a difference of 43 rating points an upset?>

Take a look at these for a bit of perspective, <Penguincw>:

Game Collection: Beat the Elite with Black

Dec-15-11  ossipossi: Yes it's a Grunfeld, but having one's Queen in the same wing with two Black Knights carries no good. 8...Qa3 but also 8...Qc2 stink. Not enough, White puts also his King on Q-side. And, alas, with Rook sacrifice 23.Rxh6 White can the can, pity that after 24.Ng5+ Black King is no more in f7, while White King is still in c1.
Dec-15-11  waustad: What a nifty Queen maneuver! Rarely does she take so many important short steps in such a minefield.
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  eternaloptimist: Gata is a tartar. He defected to the U. S. w/ his dad back in the 80s for a better way of life. Tartar is also spelled Tatar. In reference to the pun.:
Dec-15-11  DrChopper: Fine game.

Btw, the name of the game is the same as the game of Nezh, who's right now the player of the day ??! :S Some moves are somewhat similar to his game but it's hard to compete with the original!

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  kevin86: After a series of checks,black would be up two rooks for two pieces-a winning advantage.
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  Phony Benoni: <DrChopper> Not sure what you're referring to. Yes, the "pun" was used before in Nezhmetdinov vs Tal, 1961, but it's hard to spot any other resemblance between the games.
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  Penguincw: < King Death: <Penguincw> Do you really consider a difference of 43 rating points an upset? >

Well I didn't expect it that result.

Dec-15-11  waustad: Now I see why. With Nezhmedinov as player of the day, you needed to find another Tatar. Hence Gata.
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  Penguincw: Topalov tried hard in the last game, but couldn't win. All because of this game.
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