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Ray Robson vs Benjamin Finegold
"Robbing Fine Gold" (game of the day May-27-2011)
Finegold - Robson Match (2011), St Louis, MO USA, rd 6, May-22
Sicilian Defense: Old Sicilian. General (B30)  ·  1-0



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Oct-29-11  sevenseaman: Black has a crucially placed P to the good. But he will not need it in his win, if it comes about. It does not look to be a draw by a long shot, someone has to win. For my sake it better be White.

White has to be mindful of the fact that Black needs only one move to finish him off, viz Qa2#. So no time to lose; it has to be continual checks till the cows come home.

How about;

<29. Qxg7+> (29. Qh8+ will lose the plot after Bxh8 30. Rxh8+ Ke7 and no meaningful check will be available to White as 31. Bxf6+ Ke6 and the story ends for White with only spite checks left)

<29...Kxg7 is cyanide in view of 30 Bxf6+> and White cannot but win from here. Black will perhaps try to run away and play 29...Ke8. But it does not look like a marathon for him. 1-0, I think.

This is a very meaningful Q sac. Well thought out lest we mix it up with what we do every Monday rather reflexively.

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  al wazir: Got it. This may be the week I finally break the 20-point barrier (19 so far).
Oct-29-11  sevenseaman: <M Hassan: Black resigned too soon>

I did not think so when I signed in my solution and do not even now.

Lets have a look at Black K's marathon aspirations.

<29. Qxg7 Ke8> (better than Ke7 as that leads to 30. Qxf6+ )


<30 Rh8+ Kd7 31 Qxf7+ Re7 32 Qd5+ Kc7 33 Rxc8+ Kxc8 34 Qc5+ Qxc5 35 Bxc5 Re5 36 Bxa3 Rxg5 37. Be7> is how it should go. 1-0, for sure.

Oct-29-11  Fezzik: The longest critical continuation is only 5 moves deep, every move is a check, and they're all pretty obvious (at least to me). After 5 moves, it's clear that White is going to be up material and continue checking Black. Whether there's a forced mate or not is almost irrelevant because Black has no chance to survive.

Apparently, some people using computers tried to make this more difficult than it needs to be.

Black resigned not because of the mate after Kxg7, but because he saw that after 29.Qg7+ Ke8 30.Rh8!+ Kd7 31.Qf7+ Re7 32.Qd5+ Kc7 33.Rxc8, Black didn't have a defense. White's simplest move on 34.was Qc5+, even if that wasn't the fastest mate possible.

This was only an average difficulty puzzle (*maybe* 3stars and a Wednesday/Thursday puzzle by's normal standards), starting with a pretty obvious Q sac that couldn't be accepted.

Oct-29-11  Fezzik: Btw, if the puzzle had been after White's 27th move, it would have been a "Very difficult" puzzle worthy of today's rating!
Oct-29-11  abuzic: 29.Qxg7+ Ke8
30.Rh8+ Kd7
<31.Be3+? <TheBish> Qxd1+ 32.Bc1 Qxc1#>

32.Qd5+ Kc7
<or 33.Rxc8+ which works like this:

33...Kxc8 34.Rh1

<or 34.Qa8+ Kd7 35.Qa4+ Kc8 36.Qa6+ Kd8 37.Qd6+ Kc8 38.Rh1>

34...Kc7 35.gxf6 Rd7 36.Be5+ Kb6 37.Qxd7 Qc6 38.Qxc6+ Kxc6>

33... fxe5
34.Rxc8+ Kxc8
35.Qd8+ Kb7
36.Qxe7+ (Black a R down)
<36...Kb8 37.Rd8+ Qc8 38.Rxc8>;

<36...Kb6 37.Qb4+ Kc7 38.Qa5+ Kc6 39.Qa8+ Kc7 40.Qd8+ Kb7 41.Rd7+ Ka6 42.Qa8+ Kb6 43.Qb7+ Ka5 44.Rd5+ Qc5 Rxc5#>

37.Rd7 Qxd7

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  whiteshark: <29. Qxg7+> and that's it.
Oct-29-11  lost in space: The first move is forced, everything else is losing directly.

29. Qxg7+ Ke8
(29...Kxg7? 30. Bxf6+ Kf8 31. Rh8#)
(29...Ke7 30. Qxf6+ Kd7 31. Qxf7+ and it seems that White is very fine, most probably Black is mated

30. Rh8+ Kd7 31. Qxf7+ Rd7 32. Qd5+ (not 32. Bxf6 - my first thought - because of 32...Qxd1#)

and I think White wins.

Oct-29-11  Rosbach: Qxg7+ and Black is lost. If Ke7 then 30.Qxf6+ Kd7 31.Bb6+ Qxd1* 32.Rxd1 Ke8 33.Rd8+ Rxd8 34.Qxd8# (*...Ke8 32.Rh8#)
Oct-29-11  goldfarbdj: If Ke7, surely Bc5+ and mate next move? So Ke8 is the testing line.
Oct-29-11  hedgeh0g: A fairly straightforward puzzle. While this certainly isn't Saturday material, the fact that White has no good defence to mate on a2 other than giving checks, means 29.Qxg7+ is virtually forced. Since this is the only feasible option, it doesn't even need to be calculated out.
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  rhickma4: White cannot stop Black's mate threat, so he needs to mount a mating attack.

29.Qxg7+ Kxg7 30.Bxf6 Kf8 31.Rh8#
So Black must attempt to run away.

29.Qxg7+ Ke8 30.Qg8+ Kd7 31.Qxf7+
White can force the Black King on to the C file and pin the Q

29.Qxg7+ Ke7 30.Qxf6+ Kd7 31.Qxf7+
This is similar to the line above

Oct-29-11  ChessNewbie55: Fine game...and whoever's writing the puns for these games needs to get ★★★★ :-).
Oct-29-11  gofer: Err have I got the right day? This is meant to be a Saturday puzzle, but it starts with a queen sac!? Surely not!? The issue with this as a Saturday puzzle is that black is about to play Qxa2#, and there is no way for white to stop this so white must either mate black or lose. So looking for a forcing move on a Saturday is a little unusual to say the least!

<29 Qxg7+ ...>

29 ... Kxg7 29 Bxf6+ Kg8/Kf8 30 Rh8#

Okay, so the king must run, but not to a dark square! Which allows Rd1 to control the d file, when Bd4 gives check!

29 ... Ke7 30 Bc5+ ( Ke8 Qf8# or Ke6 Qxf6#) Qxc5 31 Qxf6+ Ke8 32 Rh8+ Qf8 33 Rxf8 Kxf8 34 Qh8+ winning

<29 ... Ke8>
<30 Rh8+ Kd7>
<31 Qxf7+ Re7>
<32 Qd5+ Kc7>

Finally white can move the bishop with check, but its just a little too early, first we need to box in the king!

<33 Qa5+! ...>

33 ... Kc6 34 Rxc8+ winning
33 ... Kb7 34 Qa7+ Kc6 35 Rxc8+ winning
33 ... Kb8 34 Qb6 Rb7 35 Rxc8+ (Kxc8 Qc5+ winning) Qxc8 36 Qd6+ winning easily 33 ... Kd6 34 Be5+ Ke6 35 Qd5+ Kf5 36 Bxf6+ mating

<33 ... Kd7>
<34 Qb5+ ...>

Qc2 cannot come back as it will bring Rd1 into the game AND Bd4 too! (i.e. Bxf6+)

At this point black's rooks try to defend, but fail as white's rook come into play very efficiently!

34 ... Kd6 35 Be5+ mating
34 ... Kc7 35 Bb6+ mating
34 ... Rc6 35 Qd5+ Rd6+ 36 Rd8+! Kxd8 37 Bb6+!! starting a king hunt!

<34 ... Ke6>
<35 Re1+ ...>

35 ... Kf7 36 Qd5+ mating

<35 ... Kd6>
<36 Qb6+ Rc6>
<37 Qd8+ Rd7>
<38 Qxf6+ Kc7>
<39 Qf4+! ...>

Game over as a defense is just not there any more (i.e Kb7 Rb8+ mating and Red6 Re7# and Rcd6 Rc1!)

Time to check...

Oct-29-11  morfishine: <29.Qxg7+> and not only is White a piece ahead, The Black King is subject to a terminal squeeze

I have nothing to add to <Amarande>'s high quality write-up from May-27-2011

Oct-29-11  anandrulez: This is not a **** , this is max * . Monday puzzle . I thought the Tuesday puzzle was much harder .
Oct-29-11  JohnAnthony: Don't see how this one was Very Difficult, but on the other hand I was stymied by an earlier "Medium".
Oct-29-11  CHESSTTCAMPS: Clearly this is "kill or be killed" - black threatens checkmate on a2 and there is no passive defense available, so white must hammer away at the black king with the major pieces until checkmate or a forced exchange of the the black queen. In fact, either of these outcomes can arise, so long as white starts with recognition of a basic checkmate pattern.

29.Qxg7+! was my first and only candidate. The queen can't be accepted, but the alternative is a king hunt on an open board where black's major pieces offer limited defense.

A) 29... Kxg7 30.Bxf6+ Kg1/f1 31.Rh8#

B) 29... Ke7 30.Bc5+! Qxc5 (Ke6 31.Qxf6#) 31.Qxf6+ Ke8 32.Rh8+ Qf8 33.Rxf8+ Kxf8 34.Qh8+ 1-0

C) 29... Ke8 30.Rh8+ Kd7 31.Qxf7+ Kd6 (Kc6 32.Rxc8+ followed by 33.Rxc2 1-0) 32.Bc5+! Kc6 (Kxc5 33.Rxc8+) 33.Rxc8+ Kb5 34.Qb7+ Ka5 35.Bb4#

C.1) 30... Ke7 31.Qxf6+ Kd7 32.Qxf7+ transposes back to the main C line.

C.2) 31... Re7 32.Qd5+ (Bc5+?? Qxd1#) Kc7 33.Rxc8+ Kxc8 34.Qc5+ Qxc5+ (Rc7 35.Qxc2 Rxc2 36.gxf6 is equally hopeless for black) 35.Bxc5 Re5! 36.gxf6! Rxc5 37.Rf1 and the f-pawn promotion wins.

C.3) 32... Ke5 33.Qxf6+ Ke4 34.Rh4+ Kf3 35.Qf4#

Time for review....

Oct-29-11  Patriot: 29.Qxg7+ <press clock>

That's it! Black threatens 29...Qxa2# so OTB this would be an EASY decision. 29...Kxg7 30.Bxf6+ Kf8/Kg8 31.Rh8#. This shows it isn't time to resign and whether it wins, loses, or draws it's the only move white has. There are 3 other checks (Bc5+, Qh8+, Qg8+) and they all lose quickly. So in a game the move can be played and the rest can be resolved with each new position.

As a puzzle, I went ahead and did a little further calculations just to see what I could find:

29...Ke8 30.Rh8+ Kd7 (30...Ke7 31.Qxf6+ Kd7 32.Qxf7+ is similar) 31.Qxf7+ Re7 (31...Kd6 32.Bc5++ ) 32.Qd5+ Kc7 33.Rxc8+ Kxc8 34.Qc4+ (trading into a winning endgame).

29...Ke7 30.Qxf6+ Kd7 31.Be3+ Re2 (31...Kc7 32.Qb6#) 32.Rxe2+ Qxe2 33.Bxe2

Oct-29-11  Patriot: In the last line I meant 31...Rd2 (not 31...Re2) 32.Rxd2+ Qxd2 33.Bxd2
Oct-29-11  CHESSTTCAMPS: For those who want to play the puzzle position against Crafty EGT, here is the link:

Oct-29-11  Memethecat: <29Qxg7+> seems pretty obvious, if black takes.. <29...Kxg7. 30Bxf6+ K~. 31Rh8#> if the K runs... A Q, 2Rs & B with an open board give it no chance, I've worked out 1 winning line trying to make the best moves for black <29...Ke8. 30Rh8+ Kd7. 31Qxf7+ Re7. 32Qd5+ Kc7. 33Be5+ fxe5 34Qd6+ Kb7 35Qxe7+ Ka8 36Rxc8+ Qxc8 37Rd8 Qxd8 38Qxd8+> but I'm sure the regulars can nail the quickest/most economical line.
Oct-29-11  Sularus: wow i got a Saturday in less than 10 seconds!
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  kevin86: I pulled a Texas Rangers and come close to the sokution: My move was Qh8+ ouch!!
Oct-29-11  Marmot PFL: I saw the game played so I knew the ending, which wasn't too subtle in any event. Black misses a much trickier win on move 27(Re5). Neither player realized this until someone pointed it out after the game.
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