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John Gurczak vs Richard Mercer
112th US Open (2011), Orlando USA, rd 2, Aug-03
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Schallopp Defense (D12)  ·  1-0

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Sep-03-12  scholes: After a difficult Sunday, easiest Monday to boost our morals
Sep-03-12  The Last Straw: This Monday puzzle is like, you look at it, you see the answer. :-)
Sep-03-12  The Last Straw: Today's puzzle is way too easy for a Monday!!!!!!!!!! :-)
Sep-03-12  JustAFish: This is sort of a 12:00:01 a.m. Monday puzzle. Anyone care to second my nomination for easiest chessgames puzzle ever?
Sep-03-12
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  Once: <Oxspawn> Well said, sir.
Sep-03-12  Crispy Seagull: What a weird game. Of course, that black missed the most textbook of mates might be the weirdest part.
Sep-03-12  Tiggler: <Anyway, I know I've done the same thing, remarking how easy a particular puzzle is, but does it help anyone to say so? Just my thoughts.>

And very good thoughts too <OhioChessFan> .

If your imaginary beginner is here, go look at <Memethecat>'s post. Meme is no beginner, and I admire the long post that was obviously prepared without peeking until the end. After seeing the result <Mtc> still posted it. Very much a class act!

Sep-03-12  Helios727: I thought the rule was that we limit the database to players who have obtained a rating of 2200+ at some point in their life. Did that rule change?
Sep-03-12  David2009: In J Gurczak vs R Mercer, 2011, Black played to win a hot exchange and burned his fingers (ending up missing a back rank mate when a saving combination backfires), as others have pointed out. Rewind to move 17


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After White plays 17.Qc2 threatening to trap the Queen, what should Black do?

Crafty End Game Trainer (link http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t...) continues 17...Rab8 18.Ba3 Qxd1+ 19.Qxd1 c5 20.dxc5 Nxc5 21.Qc2 Nd3 to reach


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and the best I have so far done is to draw by repetition with 22.Kf1 e5 23.Ke2 Nf4+ 24.Kf1 Rbc8 25.Qa4 Rb8 26.Qc2. In this line, if 23.g3 the EGT doubles Rooks on the e file threatening Nxf2 as soon as the Nf3 moves away. Way past my bedtime so I'll sign off now - if someone spots the win from the first diagram against Crafty EGT please post it.

Sep-03-12  Tiggler: <Helios727: I thought the rule was that we limit the database to players who have obtained a rating of 2200+ at some point in their life. Did that rule change?>

And kibitzers should be limited to those whose ratings are at least 400 points less than either player.

Sep-03-12  stst: <What a weird game.> Weird that Black got to this position?
& What a weird puzzle?? - Not really - Never mind.
Suggest Mondays should be up a notch.
BTW,
Qd8+ RxQ
RxR#
DONE.
Sep-03-12  Abdel Irada: Speaking of the Sunday puzzle ....

I didn't get a chance to post my solution until after the Monday puzzle was up, so all that work (a four-part analysis) will now go unread. :-/

Would have been interesting to see if anyone found any flaws in it.

Sep-03-12  Abdel Irada: Here's a supplemental puzzle that may be of interest:


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White to play. Mate in three.

(This occurred in one of my blitz games about 19 years ago. There was no move limit, but I had six seconds on my clock, so I had to be fairly efficient.)

Sep-03-12  Tiggler: <Abdel Irada>

I at least looked at it, though not with any expectation of finding flaws. The real reason I went back was to see if <chrisowen> had responded to my question about his variation. Nope. I'd really like to get him into a dialog because my suspicion is that he may be the leading genius of those who post on POTD.

Sep-03-12
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  Eggman: <Abdel> 1.Rg2 Kf1 (1...Kd1 2.Rg1#) 2.Ne3+ Ke1 3.Re2#
Sep-03-12
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  Eggman: <<Tiggler>> Chrisowen is certainly our greatest genius of surrealist poetry.
Sep-03-12  Abdel Irada: <chrisowen> is an oracle, and his pronouncements are fully worthy of the precedent set at Delphi: One can read almost anything into them, so they are always "right"; simultaneously, and for the same reason, they are always "wrong." It is strictly a matter of interpretation.

Unfortunately, since to really decipher his solutions would require the second coming of Alan Turing, I have found it more convenient (and less damaging to my sanity) to disregard them.

Sep-03-12  Abdel Irada: Well done, <Eggman>.
Sep-03-12  Tiggler: I looked at Ne3 and thought, "it's mate in 2, because his king has to go to d1" Only then did I notice he can't go there - stalemate and embarrassment.
Sep-03-12  Tiggler: <Eggman: <<Tiggler>> Chrisowen is certainly our greatest genius of surrealist poetry.>

True, and he reminds me a little of William Burroughs. <chrisowen> , if you are there, I hope you don't mind us discussing your contributions - certainly no offense is intended.

Sep-03-12  sevenseaman: <Abdel Irada>'s supplemental puzzle caught my fancy.

1. Rg2 leaves the Black K only two moves, Kf1 or Kd1.

a) 1...Kf1 2. Ne3+ Ke1▢ 3. Re2#

b) 1...Kd1 2. Rg1#

Remarkable if you did it it in a mere 6 sec. It took me at least 2 minutes of thinking.

A good idea to share.

Sunday puzzle was a toughie and mostly went unsolved. Your hard work will not be wasted if you posted it into the POTD forum even now. It was a nasty puzzle and some people could still go back to it to clear their own cobwebs.

Sep-03-12  hugogomes: They should make a new day of the week for puzzles as easy as this!
Sep-04-12
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  kevin86: An easy mate in two,led by a queen sac.
Oct-11-12  The Last Straw: 16...♖fxd8?? was the real blunder. If 16...♖axd8! then after 17.♕c2 ♘e5 18.♘xe5 ♖xd4 19.♗d2 ♖xd2 20.♕xd2 ♕xe5 21.♕d8!? black doesn't have to take the ♕. Instead 21.♕d7 (in my line) is better, wins a pawn back and converts to a drawn endgame.
Apr-07-14  RedShield: <R Mercerful release>
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