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Jan Smeets vs Daan Brandenburg
"Brandenburg Concerto" (game of the day Apr-13-2018)
NED-ch internet (2011), INT, rd 2, Jun-18
French Defense: Advance. Lputian Variation (C02)  ·  0-1



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Nov-10-11  Coigach: I've had fairly good success with these puzzles recently, but just couldn't see the idea today. Struggled with 23...Rc3 and 23...Qb2 for some time, and then gave up.

Certainly a fantastic combination, using all B's pieces while W is completely helpless.

Nov-10-11  scormus: 23 ... Rf3 is a killer. W can take with 3 pieces or try 24 Qb6, but none of them work. Nice that he chose the move that allowed the neat #
Nov-10-11  polarx: Missed it completely.
Nov-10-11  sevenseaman: <FSR> Thanks for the epochal orientation. I thought I might have played one of the progeny. I met quite a few Ruskies (them formidable Vodka drinkers) in the Air Force, long time ago.
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  FSR: <sevenseaman> Actually, I got the time frame wrong, and there are apparently doubts about the veracity of the story:

<Feodor Vassilyev (Russian: Ը ) (b. approx. 1707[1]) was a peasant from Shuya, Russia. His first wife, Mrs. Vassilyev sets the record for most children birthed by a single woman. She gave birth to a total of 69 children; however, few other details are known of her life, such as her date of birth or death. She gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, 7 sets of triplets and 4 sets of quadruplets between 1725 and 1765, in a total of 27 births. 67 of the 69 children born are said to have survived infancy.[2][3]

The first published account about Feodor Vassilyev's children appeared in a 1783 issue of The Gentleman's Magazine (Vol. 53 p. 753, London, 1783) and states that the information "however astonishing, may be depended upon, as it came directly from an English merchant in St Petersburg to his relatives in England, who added that the peasant was to be introduced to the Empress".[1][2] The same numbers were given in a 1834 book of Bashutskiy, Saint Petersburg Panorama.[2][4]

Several published sources raised doubts as to the veracity of these claims. According to a 1933 article by Julia Bell[5] in Biometrika, a 1790 book of B. F. J. Hermann Statistische Schilderung von Rutsland did provide the claims about Feodor Vassilyev's children but "with a caution". Bell also notes that the case was reported by The Lancet in a 1878 article about the study of twins.[6] The Lancet article states that the French Academy of Sciences attempted to verify the claims about Vassilyev's children and contacted "M. Khanikoff of the Imperial Academy of St Petersburg for advice as to the means they should pursue, but were told by him that all investigation was superfluous, that members of the family still lived in Moscow and that they had been the object of favours from the Government".[6][7] Bell concludes that Vassilyev's case "must be regarded as under suspicion".[8] Similarly, Marie Clay in a 1998 book notes: "Sadly, this evasion of proper investigation seems, in retrospect, to have dealt a terminal blow to our chances of ever establishing the true detail of this extraordinary case".[2]

Nevertheless, the data about Feodor Vassilyev's children is included in the Guinness Book of World Records.[3]>

In addition to the extraordinariness of the number, it seems bizarre than in 27 births, she never <once> had just one child.

Nov-10-11  Patriot: It took me a while to even consider 23...Rf3 this morning. I'm just now finding a little time to post.

The advanced e4-pawn was the clue. There are several forcing moves to consider like Rc3, Rxd2, Rxf1+, Qb2, Qxa1 and I even considered Rf2 and Qxg3. But considering is the key word. After doing a safety check, some of those candidates can be ruled out quickly.

After seeing 23...Rf3, I first calculated 24.Bxf3 Rxh2+ 25.Kxh2 Qxg3+ (25.Kg1 Qxg3+ 26.Bg2 Qxg2#) 26.Kh1 Qh2# .

Then I looked at 23...Rf3 24.Rxf3 Qxa1+ 25.Rf1 and saw nothing special about it. So then 24...exf3 25.Qxe5 Bxe5 and everything is hanging. White should be easily winning in this line.

Nov-10-11  sevenseaman: Seems I have a propensity for walking into minefields!
Nov-10-11  James Bowman: Well I peeked at Rf3 to be honest, but after that it was just seconds to see the continuations that let me know it was correct. Normally I see the first move or two real quickly but I'm too lazy or impatient to work it all out.

GG and nice pick <whitehat1963>

Nov-10-11  TheBish: J Smeets vs D Brandenburg, 2011

Black to play (23...?) "Medium"

This one was very tricky (hard). We see the battery of queen and bishop aiming toward the white king, but how does that help us? As it turns out, the Rc2 plays a key role.


Attacking the queen, which must not venture away from its defense of the bishop on e2, so the pesky rook must be captured. Unfortunately, there is no good way to capture it.

(A) 24. Bxf3 Rxh2+! 25. Kxh2 (no better is 25. Kg1 Qxg3+ 26. Bg2 Qxg2#) Qxg3+ 26. Kh1 Qh2#.

(B) 24. Rxf3 exf3! 25. Qxe5 Bxe5 26. Bd1 Rf2! (this move was hard to see) 27. Kg1 Rg2+ followed by 28...Bxa1. Or if 26. Bd3 Rd2 wins.

Of course, capturing with 24. Qxf3 is out of the question, so problem solved!

Nov-10-11  1stboard: I missed Rf3, but saw Rxf1 followed by Bxf1 followed by Qxa1.

Not the fastest way to force mate, but i am sure mate would follow with a rook up, would just take a little longer .

Nov-10-11  LIFE Master AJ: 23...Rf3!! sets up a nice combo, a ♖-smash on h2, and then mate in like two more moves. (I looked at this one for quite a while before I hit upon the right idea here.)
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  FSR: <1stboard: I missed Rf3, but saw Rxf1 followed by Bxf1 followed by Qxa1.

Not the fastest way to force mate, but i am sure mate would follow with a rook up, would just take a little longer .>

White would respond to 23...Rxf1 with 24.Rxf1 rather than hanging the rook on a1.

Nov-11-11  Magic Castle: If 24. Rf3...ef3 25. Qe5...Be5. Looks like white can still save it by the counter attack. 26. Bd1 (Not Bd3 because of Rd2 !, and one piece will be lost outright). Rf2 ! (the killer blow. Threatening mate) 27. Kg1 (aiming for an exchange of rook but..) Bd4! ! ! sets up a discovered check scenario and the white rook could not escape capture even after it moves away from capture by the bishop.
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  whiteshark: It smeets like something died in here.
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  ChessHigherCat: It looks like white can escape with 24. Rxf3 protecting g3 and if Qxa1?? 25. Rf1! but if black plays 24. ....exf3 instead white crumbles like a big honky snowman
Apr-13-18  Autoreparaturwerkbau: 23.Qe3?? was the blunder of the day.

Simple 23.Rxf8 keeps the game in balance.

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  perfidious: Black's 23rd move is an astonishing and poisonous coup.
Apr-13-18  goodevans: <Autoreparaturwerkbau: 23.Qe3?? was the blunder of the day.>

"Blunder" is such an emotive term. It suggests a complete oversight of the obvious by the perpetrator. I think we patzters are often too ready to level that charge on players who don't have the benefit that we do of hindsight (and sometimes even chess engines).

<23.Qe3?> (just one "?" in my opinion) was indeed the losing move but I think many strong players will have missed the strength of the fiendish <23...Rf3!>. Mistake, yes, but "blunder", no.

<corvedale: 15 p-e4
is this a blunder?>

15.e4 was a pretty bad mistake that handed the advantage to black. As far as I can see, white made just the two mistakes in this game but didn't black punish them well!

Apr-13-18  Autoreparaturwerkbau: <goodevans: "Blunder" is such an emotive term. It suggests a complete oversight of the obvious by the perpetrator. I think we patzers are often too ready to level that charge on players who don't have the benefit that we do of hindsight (and sometimes even chess engines).>

I don't like to be hasty about labeling any move "a blunder" either, but you might wanna check objective measures about that specific 23.Qe3?(?) - say with help of some silicon brain - or subjective measures - say Qe5 is posted attacking both Ra1 and h2-square which is why 23.Qe3 fails afterall.

Speaking about silicon evaluations... before 23.Qe3 white was like <-0,50> behind, after it he was like <-6,00> behind. Knowing that, I think labeling such move "a blunder" and giving it "??" in that case is appropriate, with no added emotions.

Apr-13-18  Hevelius: Hum, second Bachian pun in a row... what next? One on the French Suites for a Winawer French game?
Apr-13-18  morfishine: There is no such thing as the "Brandenburg Concerto"

There are however, the "Brandenburg Concertos" a collection of 6 instrumental works by JSB

So, Bach to the drawing board


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  PawnSac: < morfishine: There is no such thing as the "Brandenburg Concerto" There are however, the "Brandenburg Concertos" a collection of 6 instrumental works by JSB >

wonderful works~ I'm a real Bach fan

Apr-13-18  morfishine: <PawnSac> Thanks for the inspiration! I've been looking for a third favorite classical composer. Mozart & Vivaldi have been hands-down my two favorite composers, and I have virtually all their works.

Now, thanks to you, I may have found my third favorite: Bach



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  Check It Out: I once had a cassette tape called something like Three guitars play Bach.

I wore that thing out it was so good.

Nov-13-18  SpiritedReposte: <23. ...Rf3!> <24. ...Rxh2+!>
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