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Philip H Williams vs William Dundas Wight
"One-Cent Magenta" (game of the day Feb-01-2022)
Hastings - Tunbridge Wells m (1919), Hastings ENG, Aug-16
Scotch Game: General (C45)  ·  1-0



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Feb-01-22  Ironmanth: What a game!! Thanks, chessgames. Y'all stay safe this week, enjoy the Olympics, and play tons of great chess!
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  FSR: Most obscure Chessgames pun ever?
Feb-01-22  Z truth 000000001: <FSR: Most obscure Chessgames pun ever?>

It's up there - though I whooped a little at the whupping comment (and the repartee).

FWIW- I think <Missy> is doing a stellar job on the whole.

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  FSR: The stamp:

The tale of Edmund Dalziel Wight:

Buy 1/80,000 ownership for $134.99 here: That implies a total value of $10.8 million, even though the whole stamp was sold in June 2021 for a measly $8.3 million.

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  FSR: <Z truth 000000001: . . . FWIW- I think <Missy> is doing a stellar job on the whole.>

Do you consider C Shannon vs James E Warren, 1957 an inspired selection?

Feb-01-22  Z truth 000000001: Well, I did make the cowardly qualification, "on the whole".

I still think there should be a rotation of pun curators - both for diversification's sake, and, to avoid burnout on <Missy>'s part.

(Despite her tough veneer, she may just be a cream-puff on the inside.)

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Miss Scarlett,

<When I assumed this role...>

It is a blatant waste of your dedication and skill. Apart from your well researched contributions and Winter like perseverance for more acknowledged sources.
You work best at footing up the withered ass anyone who does not share your enthusiasm.

(though go easy on those in the Bio Bay, their thin skins often have them throwing their history books out of the pram and running away.)

This pun picker role should be abolished and a four man pun team created, they will decide on future puns.

(don't put crazy Harry in the team, all will be Fischer based....Make Chris Owen the team captain.)

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  srose58089: From Wikipedia

The British Guiana 1c magenta is regarded by many philatelists as the world's most famous rare stamp.[3][4] It was issued in limited numbers in British Guiana (now Guyana) in 1856, and only one specimen is now known to exist. It is the only major postage stamp ever issued that is not represented in Britain's Royal Philatelic Collection.[5]

The details of the stamp may be better seen in this image of the 4-cent stamp of the same issue It is imperforate, printed in black on magenta paper, and it features a sailing ship along with the colony's Latin motto "Damus Petimus Que Vicissim" (We give and expect in return) in the middle. Four thin lines frame the ship. The stamp's country of issue and value in small black upper case lettering in turn surround the frame. With its US$9,480,000 sale on 17 June 2014[1][2] to Stuart Weitzman, this item broke the world record for a single stamp auction price each of the last four times it has been sold.[6] The stamp was auctioned again on 8 June 2021 for the price of $8,307,000. Beginning November 8, 2021, individuals are able to purchase fractional ownership of the stamp from Stanley Gibbons.[7]

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  MissScarlett: <Do you consider C Shannon vs James E Warren, 1957 an inspired selection?>

Chosen on the grounds of historical interest. Shannon is a big name in the history of computer science. If, by chance, you find a game by Henry Ford, van Gogh or Barack Obama, let me know.

I see the role as providing a variety of games i) to suit different levels and tastes, ii) for variety's sake.

Something I've come to appreciate is that quite a lot people do apparently look over the games, meaning I'm less inclined now to pick one simply on the strength on the pun.

Feb-01-22  login:

'I see the role as providing a variety of games i) to suit different levels and tastes, ii) for variety's sake.'


'Since my chess understanding is like a rope of sand (hence my sincere 'interest' in members' 'ELO') the rule of thumb for my pun selection is constructed around my sick cookie-cutter approach reading everything about me-myself-I for at least one entire pday. For the life of it I cannot get enough hearing my name, it keeps my 'sanity' (without my CG fans not many know I even exist). Before you ask: I'm actually a boi, too.

Get 'stamped'


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  Sally Simpson: Hi Miss Scarlett,

So you select games of interest that get sent in or you come across. Keep up the good work.

But you also select the best pun. This is a task for another person with more time on their hands else you will get bogged down. Ask to come off it. Insist you come off it.

Find an Aussie to do it, they are always bright and cheerful, they don't know Latin and have not been politically corrected.

PS: when are you going to post the Browne 1978 game v chess 4 I sent in. The box bunnies will drool like love struck teenagers when they see it.


US $9,480,000 for an over franked stamp. I really hope someday they find a dozen more in better condition, then the sap who paid all that money for it will have a devalued stamp worth a fraction of what he paid for it.

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  MissScarlett: There are currently 6,825 puns in the queue...if you subtracted all the ones containing either knight, Euwe, Hou, Short or Flohr, it'd drop by about two thousand.
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  Sally Simpson: 6,835 pun submissions...good grief.

Just be thankful this lad D Chaplin never met anyone called Charlie

And if ever Alfred Pink played Charlie Durham you would get the pink panther pun. Durham, Durham...Durham, Durham, Durham.

Just delete the whole 6,835 and spare us. Say it was an accident or a PUNitive measure.

Feb-03-22  Z free or die: FWIW- I'm not really a pun kinda guy(*), but here's a quote from someone who I think is one:

<<OCF wrote>: <FSR> and <Miss Scarlett> are Pantheon level punsters.>

Sargon chessforum (kibitz #42)

* * * * *

(*) Though I do enjoy the occasional wordplay, and always enough a good game.

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Z free or die,

It's just another good game smothered in comments about a pun.

I don't mind puns too much, some of FSR's are quite good, but this one reads like a Times Cryptic Crossword and Miss Scarlett has let it through because she hates us.

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  MissScarlett: I wouldn't worry. There'll be another one along tomorrow.
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  MissScarlett: Just for <Miss Sally>...

C.N. 7214:

<I also played in a 33-board match, succeeding in taking away the nasty taste; for I managed to bring off a nice mate – quite after the problemist’s heart. I am bold enough to submit it to the Games Editor, and hope that he will be merciful with the weak play on both sides leading up to a rather saucy finish. The little shower of sparks comes at the end. There are no idle white pieces – thus conforming to the laws of problem construction.>

Feb-04-22  Z free or die: <Missy> you missed the better part, right at the beginning - ie. Williams comments on Capablanca:

<On page 336 of the September 1919 Chess Amateur Williams wrote about the game in a report on his visit to the Hastings Congress:

‘I overheard part of an interview with J.R. Capablanca, who was asked his opinion of problems. As a player, of course, he takes little interest in them, though a remarkably rapid solver. He says that they do not tend to improve one’s power as a player.

<Now, nobody interviews me, but were I asked my opinion of games, I should say that they do not improve one’s power as a problem composer. Am I not entitled to this view? Capablanca is an awfully nice fellow>,

and he has a way, I believe, of looking on his game, when Black, thus:

1 P-K4 (a)
(a) This loses.
This is a useful attitude as it generally does lose. Yet I am told that it is the best move on the board. He himself plays it, when White, and when he does so, his visualization is thus:

1 P-K4 (a)
(a) This wins.
Chess is a wonderful game, isn’t it?>

[ed- emphasis added]

C.N. 7214


Feb-04-22  Z free or die: BTW - has <CG> updated the auto-linking to Winter's <Chess Notes>?

I suspect not - which means it won't work for any CN article written after <Daniel>'s death.

<snark on>
Probably another useful feature jettisoned as <too obsolete and convoluted to save>.
<snark off>

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  Sally Simpson: Thank you all,

I'm still perplexed as to why the pun was based on a rare stamp.

Edward Winter has dedicated a whole page to Philip H Williams calling him a 'Genius' yet here, he has been relegated to the role of a mere stamp collector. (the official term for stamp collecting escapes me, no doubt one of the two smart alecs who took part in this pun crime will enlighten me.)

On that page a penny stamp is mentioned.

"It will be seen from it that my opponent didn’t care a penny stamp for P.H.W., nor did P.H.W. care one for him – no, not even one with the gum licked off.

The result was that we went for each other like a brace of rival Socialist orators in the Park."

An interesting read that page.

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  MissScarlett: You're getting awfully perforated around the edges about this, aren't you? When a pun was based on the 1972 recording of an obscure American folk band, you never batted an eyelid.

Philately remains one of the world's most popular hobbies. It''s hip to be square:

<Post modern: why millennials have fallen in love with stamp collecting>

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Miss Scarlett,

I do not look at all the puns so the 1972 obscure folk band passed me by. However this one is nonsense in the correct meaning of the word.

I know the shop Suzanne Rae from Edinburgh is talking about. I went there often enough looking for chess stamps. (of which I have a good collection including the Karpov-Fischer 1975 forgery.)

I wonder if the Philately (thank you) website has puns on stamps and if any are based on chess themes. I think not.

<' You're getting awfully perforated around the edges about this, aren't you?'>

(I'm bored, this is something to have a good moan about. BTW I picked up a large bundle of 1974-1978 BCMs a few days ago, as you may have guessed from the dates of the recent games I've been posting about. 10p each! and D.J.Morgan is doing the Q & Q's goldust!!)

Where was I....

It's bad enough them (I won't point them out - we know who they are) slobbering all over great games with their home computers. Bad puns double the cringe factor.

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  FSR: <Sally Simpson> Do you have any tips on how to collect chess stamps? Is there a catalogue of them?
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  FSR: <Z free or die> You had to bring up <Sargon>, the guy who created a "rank" for noted punsters, but has never seen fit to bestow it on me, even after others upon whom he has bestowed it have said that I am one of the all-time greats. Admittedly, chessgames has only used 185 of my puns. Game Collection: Puns I submitted.
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  Sally Simpson: Hi FSR,

I know hardly anything about collecting stamps. I have a dozen of so chess stamps which I keep in a tin box along with cigarette cards of chess players.(I have Capablanca and one of Sir George Thomas).

It would be more correct to say I collect anything remotely connected to chess. Tablecloths, thimbles, salt and pepper pots, aftershave bottles, jigsaws, socks, tee-shirts, badges, ornaments, more socks, name it and the chances are I have a chess version it.

I don't go out of my way to get them. I see them in junk shops and buy them. If the family see anything like that they buy it and fob it off to me as a Christmas present.

This is a stamp of Lev Aronian it looks like a young Janowsky but it has been taken from this picture.

and this one of 'Boris Spassky' from Edward Winters site.

it is infact Kronsteen 'From Russia with Love.'

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