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Yaroslav Zherebukh vs Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
"Thus Spoke Zherebukhstra" (game of the day Sep-07-2011)
World Cup (2011) (rapid), Khanty-Mansiysk RUS, rd 3, Sep-05
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B90)  ·  1-0

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Sep-07-11  sofouuk: <Julian713: I love this pun>so near, and yet.

'Thus Sp<a>ke Zherebukhstra'

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Sep-07-11  sfm: Seriously stupid pun. One of the best yet!
Sep-07-11  Resignation Trap: 2011: A Space Advantage! (OK, hardly original. But it compliments the silly pun of today's game)
Sep-07-11  Shams: White has just played 16.f4:

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Why does Black not grab the DSB with 16...Ng4<?> Not for the first time have I wondered this in these Rauzer-type positions.

Sep-07-11  Ratt Boy: If Black tries to cover d7 with 28...♕c7, then 29.♗b6!, ♕xb6 30.♕d7+ and 31.♕xd8+ mates. If 28...♕c8, then 29.♘h5, ♗xe4+ 30.♔a1, ♗g6 31.♘g7+ and 32.♕xd8+ looks pretty convincing.
Sep-07-11  goodevans: Does 28 ... Qc8 29 Nh5 Bxe4+ 30 Ka1 O-O fare any better?

White can win at least the exchange but black might still have drawing chances.

That said, I wouldn't want to have to defend that position myself!

Sep-07-11  apiana: well if you dont�t know friedrich nietzsche how can you understand the "stupid" pun!!
Sep-07-11
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  kevin86: A good finish...black couldn't stop all of the angles set up by the queen.
Sep-07-11
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  whiteshark: "And who among us poets has not adulterated his wine? Many a poisonous hodgepodge has been contrived in our cellars; much that is indescribable was accomplished there."

Part II, Chapter 39, On Poets

Sep-07-11  Sem: The pun is beyond good and evil.
Sep-07-11  twinlark: heh heh, good one.
Sep-07-11  Oceanlake: There must have been some reason why Black went after the d3 bishop instead of the e3 Bishop.
Sep-07-11
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  Domdaniel: The pun -- <Sem>: 'beyond good and evil', heh -- is a Nietzscherk reaction to Zherebukh's run of successes. I suppose it'll be <Navara dull moment> next.

Fair Plato him.

Sep-07-11  LIFE Master AJ: Nice game - once more, the meaning of the pun eludes me.
Sep-07-11
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  HeMateMe: It was my pun; I'm glad it got such a lively response. It's a play on the fiction "Thus Spake Zarathustra", a story of a God like creature who decends from the heavans, to live with mankind. The writer is Fred Neetsy (Sp) a German philosopher. I believe he is the one who thought that "A Germanic 'superman' would someday evolve to rule this earth". I believe Hitler was an avid reader of Neetsy, which is a disturbing thing.

I suppose this Russian guys name isn't pronounced like the poem title, but in English it looks sort of like "Zarathustra."

G'day.

Sep-07-11  LIFE Master AJ: Thanks for the explanation - no offense, its rather disturbing.

At least now I understand the pun. It only raised an eyebrow, and no chuckle or LOL was forthcoming.

Sep-07-11
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  Domdaniel: Nietzsche. An eccentric but brilliant 19th century philosopher, and the Hitler connection is overblown. Might as well blame Hegel.

Y'know ... <Hegel, don't bother me> and <Nietzsche so bad>.

Sep-08-11  charms: @goodevans: I think that after Qc8 29 Nh5 Bxe4+ 30 Ka1 O-O, 31 Bb6! wins immediately.
Sep-08-11  mack: <whiteshark: "The major upset, of course, was Zherebukh’s win. Playing the Najdorf Sicilian with Black, Mamedyarov launched an attack on the queenside before he'd castled (23…c4?). An accurate response by his opponent proved it was a fatal error, and by move 32 the Azerbaijan grandmaster admitted defeat with mate-in-2 on the board.">

'[A]ll of life is based on semblance, art, deception, points of view, and the necessity of perspectives and error' -- Nietzsche

Sep-08-11  goodevans: <charms> Good spot. I missed that move.
Sep-08-11
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  tamar: Zherebukh still watching the games of the tie-break this morning with Jobava.

He might not be the Prophet, but he had a major spike in his learning curve.

Sep-11-11
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  Domdaniel: Zarathustra's birthday isn't celebrated until December 25th, so can I be first to wish everyone a Merry Zoroastermas.
Oct-03-11  Sem: <mack> Right: perspectivism, which helped a postmodern author like Derrida develop his concept of 'différance'.
Mar-27-16  Alexandro: The wrong move was the last one, instead of moving b7 black should've played c6 and DRAW!
Mar-27-16  Alexandro: Oh sorry! C6 was unprotected... I've tried to help you, Shaqqy!:-)
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