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Alexander Grischuk vs Peter Svidler
World Cup (2011), Khanty-Mansiysk RUS, rd 7, Sep-16
Sicilian Defense: Kan Variation. Wing Attack (B43)  ·  0-1



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Sep-16-11  AdrianP: Left at move 16 and surprised to come back to see this result. Another triumph for Svidler's tournament tactics - get into a worse position in the opening and let the other player blunder...
Sep-16-11  JamesT Kirk: 23.Nc7 and the Bg3 is free and very powerfull
Sep-16-11  Cemoblanca: Recently I read somewhere that Grischuk prefers not to play under normal time control and the reason is that he doesn't earn much money in this category, but in today's situation he would have been happy, if he would have a bit more time here and there.
Sep-16-11  Cemoblanca: <JamesT Kirk>

23.Nxc7 Qxc7 24.e6!? 25.Qd3 Re8. It's not easy to find a winning way here. 26.f4! looks nice, but I'm not sure.

Sep-16-11  Cemoblanca: 26.f4! Nd5 27.f5!? Nge7 and then?
Sep-16-11  Cemoblanca: 28.Be5 Rc8 29.c3 Qc4! and it smells like a draw!
Sep-16-11  sevenseaman: Svidler-a cool head and steel nerves. I do not think he will be caught. 27. Rxf7 was forced upon Grischuk; that R had nowhere to go.
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  whiteshark: What goes around, comes around.
Sep-16-11  Cemoblanca: Peter is a nice fellow. He deserves it.
Sep-16-11  Cemoblanca: This picture tells more than 1000 words! >>>

Congrats! :0)

Sep-16-11  haydn20: When I first played 10...Bc7 I thought "How can Black play so passively on this level?" Sure enough, White built up a nice game only to throw it away with an amazing sequence of awful moves, 23-28.
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  HeMateMe: Why do you suppose white played 17. Rxd7? Losing material here was the beginning of the end.
Sep-16-11  messachess: What happened? What was book? What was the innovation? What was Gris trying to do? Whatever it was, it was against the super-solid Svidler.
Sep-16-11  kia0708: Male Beauty vs Teddy Bear 0:1
Sep-16-11  Shams: <scormus><Gruschuk didnt exercise the best judgement. Too much testo dictating his play?>

He's hardly a rugby brute!

Sep-16-11  talisman: 24.♖d1 looks like the culprit that started the dominoes falling.
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  wordfunph: from TWIC..

"I don't really know why. I think the reason for that is that playing against your close friend is very hard."

- GM Peter Svidler

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  perfidious: <wordfunph: ..."I don't really know why. I think the reason for that is that playing against your close friend is very hard."

- GM Peter Svidler>

Though it's a little easier when he cracks, just as things were coming to full boil.

Sep-17-11  lostgalaxy: Had a second look at it.

First White had the safer choice of 17.Nc5 like some of us suggested during the game.

Secondly 23.Qg4 was very questionable. Grischuk judged wrongly that the position needs a tactical treatment.

It turned out there's not much tactic here. White gets two central pawns for a piece. The right approach should be a Petrosian-style pressure build-up.

Starting with 23.Nd4

and aiming at a c3, Qe4, f4 set up. It's still not a winning position, but far from losing in just 7 moves.

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  HeMateMe: Isn't there some maxim in chess, where if you can't calculate a forced win, don't sacrifice material?

I mean, it can't just "look" promising, there has to be something more (unless you're Tal or Bronstein, or course).

Sep-17-11  haydn20: <HeMateMe> I spent some time on 17. Rxd7 and for the life of me couldn't find a salient threat. I'm not very good however, so FWIW. 18. Qd2 leads to a very drawish position in every line I could find. The plain vanilla 18. b3 looks like it gives white an OK game, and b3 is a must on move 24 or 25. This game just convinces me I'll never really get GM play. <lostgalaxy> I didn't find 24. Nd4 so I will hand it over to the computer. Thx.
Sep-17-11  haydn20: I meant of course 23. Nd4 and a main line goes ...Qd7 24. c3 Qd5 25. f4 Re8 26. h4 Nf8=.
Sep-17-11  lostgalaxy: Thanks haydn20.

It was hard for White to accept he had nothing after such an opening and a "sac".

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  al wazir: If 31. Ng5, then 31...Qf5.
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  wordfunph: from Bobby Ang's Chess Piece..

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