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Viswanathan Anand vs Magnus Carlsen
Grand Slam Chess Final (2011), Sao Paulo BRA, rd 1, Sep-26
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Sep-26-11  Ulhumbrus: Does the exchange 21...Bxd4 lead to a technical draw or a technical win for White? White's King side pawn majority has not yet lost all of its value. My present guess is that it will draw with best play, but may lose if Black makes a mistake somewhere.
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  beenthere240: White's winning chances depend on the pawn structure staying intact until all the pieces are gone.
Sep-26-11  talisman: <anybody> why not c5 there? why the king?
Sep-26-11  lost in space: With BOC and the chance for Black to play Rd8 I see no way for White to win this
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  beenthere240: Queenside pawn moves don't help black because white's 3 pawns can stop the 4. All of the people who were hoping for an e6 were wanting Anand to throw away his only chance of winning -- in fact the e5 pawn was the whole point hind the first few moves.
Sep-26-11  theodor: draw!
Sep-26-11  talisman: i'm outta here...which means some monumental blunder will occur!
Sep-26-11  lost in space: <<talisman:> <anybody> why not c5 there? why the king?>

Not 100% sure, but I think Black would like to activate his last passive piece by playing Rd8 with =

Sep-26-11  Ulhumbrus: Perhaps Anand thinks that he risks little by playing to win
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  luzhin: The King and Pawn ending would be a win for white: unfortunately there is no way he can ever force the exchange of his bishop for black's -- the wrong color!
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  beenthere240: now white can force a passed pawn. It may not be enough to win, but he can torture young Magnus for quite a while.
Sep-26-11  Ulhumbrus: Anand has managed to keep Black's QB out of the square f5.
Sep-26-11  lost in space: Draw, as expected. And a boring draw (as not expected)
Sep-26-11  Strongest Force: They both are torturing their fans
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Sep-26-11  Ulhumbrus: Perhaps Anand considers the ending to be a technical draw.
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  whiteshark: "Quite a boring start...we expected more from the two chess geniuses." ~ A. Naiditsch
Sep-26-11  drnooo: whats really funny here is that six pages of kibitzing was devoted to this monumental struggle
Sep-26-11  RuyLupit: Clash of the Titans
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  TheFocus: Boring from move 8 to 28. They could have agreed to the draw after the exchange.

I needed a nap afterwards.

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  HeMateMe: I know what happenned. Just before the game, Anand was doing his impersonations of Monty Python characters, and they both started lauging so hard that they decided to play a drawish Ruy.
Sep-26-11  parisattack: Great advertisement for Fischer-Random!
Sep-27-11  rogge: <A draw with Black versus Magnus is a good result for Anand.>

I agree, but Anand played White ;)

Wasn't it Kramnik who said that playing the Berlin against Carlsen is suicide?

Sep-27-11  xanadu: Sorry: I agree with Ulhumbrus. At a lower player´s level this opening is not easy to hold for Black. At Carlsen´s level he surelly finds the perfect defense. In any case, a draw with Black versus Anand is a good result for Magnus.
Sep-27-11  rogge: <a draw with Black versus Anand is a good result for Magnus>

Yeah, I still agree :)

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