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Levon Aronian vs Magnus Carlsen
London Chess Classic (2011), London ENG, rd 5, Dec-08
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Schallopp Defense (D12)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Dec-08-11  Ulhumbrus: Aronian won a pawn but was unable to keep it.
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  whiteshark: You might wonder when he started to think about it for the first time?
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  moronovich: Magnus just did it again !
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  FSR: This Carlsen is strong like bull.
Dec-08-11  JimmyRockHound: Well played Carlsen. Everyone thought you were in toruble there but you got out of it. And made it look pretty easy too...
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  FSR: <OhioChessFan: And Fritz says it should have been Rc4.>

So Rc5 was Aronious?

Dec-08-11  boz: Nakamura just toasted Howell.
Dec-08-11  LIFE Master AJ: Wow, its already over?
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  FSR: <boz> Cool! Naka is on fire!
Dec-08-11  LIFE Master AJ: Just a couple of minutes before noon here ... seems like they played the whole game very quickly.
Dec-08-11  boz: <FSR: <boz> Cool! Naka is on fire!>

Yes, he just seems to have seen through the complications better than his opponent.

Kramnik-Adams looks interesting.

Dec-08-11  Bobwhoosta: It's amazing how quickly Carlsen's position went from looking abyssmal to drawish, and then to a straight draw.

Well done sir, and well done Aronian for putting him in that position in the first place!!!

Dec-08-11  Ulhumbrus: Carlsen and Aronian are in the commentary box. Here is the link:
Dec-08-11  LIFE Master AJ: Around move 26, I thought Carlsen was busted ... then I checked back, and it was over!!!
Dec-08-11  waustad: Carlsen's comment after 18. Nxe4 "I wanted to lay down and cry"
Dec-08-11  Skakalec: 33.e4 I have an objection on this move, I don't like it. I would have played Rc3 and first after Ng4, e4.
Dec-08-11  AlphaMale: Suprising that Magnus seems to have missed 18.Nxe4! completely (otherwise he would surely have played 17...Nc5 instead). He also confessed to not considering the possibility of 20.Nd6!.
Dec-08-11  AlphaMale: Incredible that this was their 51st game together (all but one of them in just 5 years). Definitely shaping up as one of the great rivalries. The DB has 201 games for Kasparov-Karpov, 154 or Anand-Kramnik, 122 for Anand-Ivanchuk, 121 for Karpov-Korchnoi...
Dec-08-11  Riverbeast: Carlsen is a slippery one, no doubt about it

He's awfully tough in bad positions

I'm sure Aronian was objectively better or winning during this game....But this is chess, right?

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  Penguincw: Not really interesting to me.
Dec-09-11  AlphaMale: The only other combinations in the DB with a 100+ games are Kasparov-Kramnik with 122 and Anand-Topalov with 102. Lasker-Alekhine played 8 times over 22 years.
Dec-09-11  Ulhumbrus: Suppose that instead of 20 Ng3 as Aronian played White plays the move 20 Nd6!! which Trent (and possibly later McShane as well) pointed out in the commentary box. One difference which this makes is that after 20...Qxe3 21 fxe3 Bg6 22 Rc7 Nb6 23 a5 Nd5 White has the ability to take the b7 pawn. On 24 Rxb7 Nxb7 25 Nxb7 Nxe3 26 Rc1 Black's a6 pawn is en prise and in addition this White's Rook on c1 threatens potentially to go to c6 as well as to c7 or c8
Dec-09-11  LIFE Master AJ: Was Black busted at any point?
Dec-09-11  notyetagm: Game Collection: FIX THE WEAKNESSES! FIX THE WEAKNESSES! FIX THE

Aronian vs Carlsen, 2011 25 a4-a5! fixes Black a6-,b7-pawns on light squares as targets



GM Landa recommended 25.a5!, fixing
Black's weaknesses on the queenside
and move the pawn from a4, where it
can be attacked later. Indeed, that
move would make Black's life very


Magnus did not give Levon a chance
to correct his mistake! White is still
better, but now Black has some
counter-chances as he can attack the
a4-pawn. In such endgames there is
always a danger that White's
advantage will fizzle out - that Black
will escape with a draw in a rook
endgame a pawn down, etc.>

Dec-10-11  Ulhumbrus: 25 a5 fixes the b7 pawn but it also loses a tempo for Bf3 and so invites the centralization 25...Nd5. On 26 Kf2 Ra8! brings the QR into play. Then Black even threatens to gain the upper hand by 27...Rac8. So in least one sequence, by taking the chance to play a5, White gives Black the chance to get his R on a7 back into the game.
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