Jan-04-12
 | | Penguincw: 20...c5. Wow. A five pawns attack. Hehe. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | jon01: Ivanchuk goes berserk starting from the 30th move. After that he drops one piece every move. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | Landman: In his defense, it was a bit more interesting than resigning straightaway. In exchange for giving up a Queen and two pieces, he undoubles his opponent's central passed pawns and pulls one to the second rank. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | Landman: "Would you like a third piece for dessert?"
"No thanks, I'm completely full." |
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Jan-04-12
 | | Robed.Bishop: <Landman: In exchange for giving up a Queen and two pieces, he undoubles his opponent's central passed pawns and pulls one to the second rank.> Yep, he certainly cleared the board a bit. |
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Jan-04-12
| | Robed.Bishop: Luckily for me, I don't have to imagine the frustration he most certainly felt before making the moves over losing yet another game in the tournament. I know the feeling... |
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| Jan-04-12 | | timhortons: thats what you called "do a chucky!" |
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Jan-04-12
 | | andrewjsacks: Sad. Ivanchuk has the talent to be a WC contender--but not the temperament, you might call it. Garry said that a long time ago, and it is the case. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | King Death: <andrewjsacks: ...Ivanchuk has the talent to be a WC contender--but not the temperament, you might call it...> He reminds me a little of Portisch and his peak performances are even higher, but something's missing just like there was with Portisch. It must be somewhere in the psychological part of the game because these super GMs are all strong at everything technical. Unfortunately both players mentioned seem to fail when the stakes are biggest. |
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Jan-04-12
| | andrewjsacks: <King Death> You are a voice of reason. Thank you for the response. There are more factors, qualities--plenty of them--besides pure talent and technical experise in ascending to the top. Kasparov had them, by the way. And all the Garry-bashers, well, the big boy took the ball and went home. Kramnik should have given him a rematch, regardless of then-current rules, contracts, etc. It was a matter of honor. And my money would have been on Kasparov in the return match. So there. |
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Jan-04-12
| | andrewjsacks: Please forgive the typo. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | Kazzak: Chucky made a lot of money today, apparently. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | kurtrichards: <...better watch out Ivanchuk.> I told you. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | drkodos: send in the clowns |
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| Jan-04-12 | | LaFreak III: his temper is a problem..but he is still great |
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| Jan-05-12 | | Riverbeast: Chucky was busted after 29...Rd2 and he knew it
The following moves were just his way of resigning
Maybe he was frustrated, maybe he thought it was more entertaining to resign this way...Maybe a bit of both I wouldn't have been so quick to call it a meltdown, though If he had 'Chucked' (pun intended) all his pieces like this is a relatively even position, or one that was winning for him, I would consider THAT a real meltdown! |
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| Jan-05-12 | | King Death: <andrewjsacks> You obviously know much more about what went on between Kasparov and Kramnik in the rematch they agreed on than I do, but I agree that it would have been the right thing for Kramnik to give him another shot. Max Euwe wasn't the greatest of the titleholders, but he held up his end of the stick in giving Alekhine a rematch. Of course Euwe was a decent honorable man. Just like Tal, as far as I know, nobody's ever had a bad thing to say about Euwe as a person. |
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| Jan-05-12 | | SoundWave: 20...c5 would have made Philidor proud. |
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| Jan-05-12 | | fyjx: chess engine hit -33.96 for white one move before resignation. chucky you did it! |
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| Jan-05-12 | | Garech: Great game from Caruana; I think Chucky must have just been having fun with the last few moves! |
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| Jan-05-12 | | Ulhumbrus: 21 g4 attacks the centre but 21...e4! foils the plan because on 22 gxf5 exd3 both captures a piece and attacks White's Queen. Ivanchuk may have been upset by the failure of his plan. |
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Jan-05-12
 | | AylerKupp: A strange game, with a complete meltdown (for want of a better word) by Ivanchuk. White was probably lost after 23...f4 and 21.g4 weakening his k-side and making way for Black's k-side pawn storm didn't look so great to me either. Caruana's 24...Qxb6 was puzzling to me even though it protects Black's Pa6 since the Black queen clearly belongs on the k-side and White's advanced b-pawn wasn't going anywhere and at that point in the game one pawn more or less isn't going to make much difference. After 24...Qh6 or 24...cxd4 25.cxd4 Qh6 the game might have been over even sooner. |
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| Jan-05-12 | | drkodos: See recent interview.
Dude gets it ... hardly a meltdown ... just a realization that chess is indeed a game. |
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Jan-07-12
| | AylerKupp: <drkodos> Which recent interview are you referring to? I looked at this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0TE... but even though the lead-in (from here: http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/m...) indicated that the interview was held after the Caruana game, Ivanchuk's statements make it seem like it was held before the Caruana game. Don't get me wrong, I like Chucky and maybe "complete meltdown" was too strong a description but, like I said, I didn't know what else to call his moves starting with 30.Qxb7. One of the comments to the game called it "rage quit" and I don't think that this was any kinder. Who knows when the realization hit him that he was about to lose his 4th consecutive game and what effect this had on him? Certainly an understandable reaction and he has my sympathy, but still unusual at this level of competition. |
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| Apr-29-19 | | Nik Hishamuddin: comments like pro but are you pro |
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Kibitzing
sac: 26...cxd4