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Gyula Sax vs Hans-Guenther Kestler
"No More Mr. Nice Guy" (game of the day Jan-29-2012)
Nice Olympiad Final-A (1974), Nice FRA, rd 13, Jun-27
Pirc Defense: Bayonet Attack (B07)  ·  0-1



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  FSR: <Phony Benoni: <FSR> It's from the <Nice> Olympiad.>

Ah, of course. As I'm sure you know, it's pronounced like "niece," although I didn't know that in 1984.

Jan-29-12  SoundWave: An impressive game! I think White's mistake might have been 8.O-O-O..
Jan-29-12  King Death: <An Englishman> This crazy unique game looked familiar and it was mentioned on a page I checked out just a few days ago after making a whimsical comment responding to one of <FSR>'s posts: Kavalek vs Suttles, 1974.
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  Benzol: After reading <ughaibu>'s post on the <cg> chessforum I uploaded this game yesterday. However, I think someone else must have beaten me to it. I had the event field as the 21st Olympiad and the site as Nice, France.

Compare this game to Sax vs Keene, 1972 which might have inspired Kestler a bit later on.

Jan-29-12  Wessel23: Is it me, or are these 2 The Lonely Island puns in a row?
Jan-29-12  psmith: The pun seems to depend on mispronouncing both "Gyula" (as "Guyla," -- should be pronounced more like "Jula") and "Nice"!
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  Penguincw: Wonderful game. White focuses on the kingside, black focuses on the queenside.
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  whiteshark: <SimonWebbsTiger> (on the Kestler page) includes <28. Rxb1 Qa2+>, too.

So what is correct?

Jan-29-12  psmith: Black also wins after 28. Rxb1 Na3+ though it is not as quick or decisive.

And, anyway, fantastic game.

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  maxi: <An Englishman>, <perfidious>, <Gejewe> and the other clowns must be pretty proud of yourselves, eh?!
Jan-29-12  Steven87: <FSR> <Phony Benoni>: Regarding the pun, I believe it's a combination of Gyula's name and a reference to an Alice Cooper song, from the year before this game was played.

Something tells me <An Englishman> shares my guess?

Jan-29-12  King Death: < maxi: <An Englishman>, <perfidious>, <Gejewe> and the other clowns must be pretty proud of yourselves, eh?!>

What do <Gejewe> and <perfidious> have to do with this? And why do you have to put down everybody that posted here, don't you have anything better to do? If you can't appreciate this game just stay away and let the rest of us enjoy it!

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  Fusilli: <Benzol> ... <Compare this game to Sax vs Keene, 1972 which might have inspired Kestler a bit later on.>

That is a wild game too. In both games Black went all out. Black has to respond aggressively to the Bayonet Attack. It is a sharp line.

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  Fusilli: And here's an example of what can happen if Black doesn't get his game going on the queenside quickly enough: F Borkowski vs A Planinc, 1979.
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  Once: An excellent game. I've often thought that the best way to play the pirc was not to castle or to castle late. Too often pirc players castle much too quickly and find themselves on the receiving end of a vicious kingside attack. Sometimes the 150 attack just plays itself against the pirc.

Here it is white who finds that his castle is not all that safe. But black had to have the courage to sacrfice both rooks to bring it off.

A gem

Jan-29-12  backrank: <whiteshark: <SimonWebbsTiger> (on the Kestler page) includes <28. Rxb1 Qa2+>, too. So what is correct?>

In his Reclam book 'Schachmeisterpartien 1971-1975', Teschner gives the latter game score (including 28. Rxb1 Qa2+), too.

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  FSR: <Steven87> Right, I got the Alice Cooper song. I just failed to recognize that "Nice" referred to where the game was played.
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  Phony Benoni: Castling queenside early isn't always a mistake:

M Sixtensson vs G West, 1986

Jan-29-12  King Death: < KKDEREK: ...I am probably tripping..;op>

Well if you are you better be enjoying yourself at least!

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  maxi: Dear me, <King Death>, you are quick to anger. I wasn't putting anybody down. First, notice my avatar is a clown. Second, I was referring to the discussion about the existence of this particular game under Kavalek vs Suttles, 1974. My point is that they not only managed to determine which game it was, but also to get it in CG and as game of the day.
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  maxi: I believe I have seen enough games of the Pirc, Modern and Robatsch defenses where White plays both f4 and h4 early and then gets killed.
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  kevin86: White loses his queen or gets mated.
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  GrahamClayton: Kestler's own "immortal" game.
Sep-09-14  gars: A splendid game by Black! I must thank <An Englishman> for his comments, which made me play over this game. Please notice, friends, that this game was so impressive that <An Englishman> started with "Good Heavens!", instead of his traditional "Good Evening".
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  perfidious: <An Englishamn....The game contains one shocking blow after another by Black from move 16 onward. It is also one of the few games in history in which both Rooks move only once, and only to sacrifice themselves.>

It is the only game I have ever seen featuring a double rook sacrifice from both rooks' original squares and is a remarkable sacrificial orgy.

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