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|May-24-12|| ||LIFE Master AJ: <<May-24-12
kevin86: Another draw! I would suggest that they go to penalty kicks (with steel-toed shoes under the table). This would end forever the idea that chess is a nerd's game. lol>>|
Sounds very painful to me! I think I would have to give up chess if this idea caught on ...
|May-24-12|| ||GilesFarnaby: <Kinghunt: <RookFile> Bxh2 is actually a fine move f you ignore everything going on on the queenside. The bishop can't be trapped due to black's ability to play f4, fxg3, and Re2. It's just that the a and b pawns are higher priority, and by the time black's done dealing with them, white will do something to prevent Bxh2.>|
I haven't checked with an engine, but I had this in mind:
...Bh2 g3 f4 Kg2 fxg3 Rh1
|May-24-12|| ||Eyal: According to the press conference, there was a draw offer by Gelfand that came on move 20 and was rejected by Anand, before Anand offered it himself a few moves later. Perhaps Gelfand was sort of "retaliating" for Anand's draw offer in yesterday's game ("Hey, maybe I'm the one who is supposed to be fighting for the draw, but we both know you can't win this now").|
|May-24-12|| ||HeMateMe: Blame the quiet chess on the 12 game limit. If Gelfand had kept that one point lead, he would now be in great shape to close out the match.|
Does anyone know what Anand's history of rapid chess is, G25 or G30, whatever the tiebreaker is here?
|May-24-12|| ||Ulhumbrus: In the position after 16 Kf1 it seems that White's pieces can do a lot if given time while Black's pieces can do little or nothing but defend. This suggests an impressive defence on Gelfand's part.|
|May-24-12|| ||Eyal: <AgentRgent: Is 5...e5 really a Novelty?>|
It's extremely rare - I suppose Anand was surprised by it - but strictly speaking it isn't new. I found a couple of previous games where it has been played, one of them between 2400-2500 Russian players which was followed up to move 8 (http://chesstempo.com/gamedb/game/1...).
|May-24-12|| ||AVRO38: <More tested was 1.a3!?; It worked against Morphy and Karpov.>|
Actually 1.a3 is stronger than people think. After 1...e5 2.e4 Black is playing a reversed Open Game, but with a3 on the board that is not as easy as it sounds. After 2...Nf6 3.Nc3 the reversed Ruy is off the table, and 3...Bc5 can be met with a reversed Two Knights which favors White since a3 prevents the thematic Bb4. This limits Blacks options considerably.
Of course Black does not have to play 1...e5, but to prevent such a powerful move with something as offbeat and seemingly innocuous as 1.a3 is pretty impressive.
|May-24-12|| ||RookFile: Everybody has their own take. You can hope for 1. a3 e5 2. c4 ideally leading to Najdorf positions where you have an extra tempo. |
If Fischer could get a guarantee that black would play this way, he would score 100 percent with the white pieces.
|May-24-12|| ||plang: < ReneDescartes: Someone has probably said this already, but Anand's strategy here may be an attenuated version of Grischuk's strategy in the Candidates' Tournament. Anand is still one of the best rapid players in the world, certainly better than Gelfand; and he is known, along with Kramnik, as the best defender alive today. So he is behaving as if he had draw odds.>|
I really doubt that this is a deliberate strategy on Anand's part. Anything can happen in a Blitz playoff. Anand knows that from his 1998 match with Karpov where everyone assumed Anand would win the playoff. I hope the Match is decided in regulation as the playoff format is a very inadequate way to determine the WC.
|May-24-12|| ||MichaelJHuman: Maybe chess is a drawn game, like tic-tac-toe. Of course it's currently impossible to prove that.|
Maybe every drawn game is simply a reflection of that.
Humans likely always play sub optimally, but maybe, with no obvious blunder, a draw is as perfect play as humans can achieve.
|May-24-12|| ||fm avari viraf: People don't expect such a dry, dull, drab & dreary game from world's best players. They want pyrotechnics but that is not possible with every game.|
|May-24-12|| ||AVRO38: <Everybody has their own take. You can hope for 1. a3 e5 2. c4 ideally leading to Najdorf positions where you have an extra tempo.>|
Agreed. Which is all the more reason not to play 1...e5, and a further demonstration of the hidden power of 1.a3.
|May-24-12|| ||BadKnight: 1.a3 is a witchcraft move to hypnotize your opponent. there is no other reason it can be good. black does not have to play a color-reversed topical line gifting white a useful tempo, just play chess and pick a line that makes 1.a3 more or less useless, and you should be fine.|
|May-24-12|| ||Albertan: Separate analysis of this game done by GM Edouard Romain, and GM Daniel King can be viewed and played through by clicking on the following link:
Video stream of the round (from the official World Championship site) can be viewed at the same link.
|May-24-12|| ||HeMateMe: <Anand is still one of the best rapid players in the world, certainly better than Gelfand;>|
I'm not sure of all that. Anand doesn't play with any great speed these days. Gelfand had to win one or more rapid playoffs himself to get to this match; he can't be too intimidated by Anand in G25, or whatever it is.
|May-24-12|| ||anjyplayer: Anand is superior in rapid games.|
|May-24-12|| ||optimal play: <AgentRgent><Eyal> It's hard to see any advantage in playing 5...e5 instead of the more usual Ne7 or f6 or even d5|
Anand may have been surprised, but not worried.
|May-25-12|| ||HeMateMe: I don't think either player has been in much time trouble this match. I would think the rapid tie breaker would be even money.|
|May-25-12|| ||Dr. J: <RookFile: ...If Fischer could get a guarantee that black would play this way, he would score 100 percent with the white pieces.>|
I doubt it. Dead people don't play very good chess.
|May-25-12|| ||Eyal: <optimal play: It's hard to see any advantage in playing 5...e5 instead of the more usual Ne7 or f6 or even d5|
Anand may have been surprised, but not worried.>
I think it's actually easy to see an advantage - if it works, it blunts the whole b3-Bb2 idea. If further analysis confirms that, it might put the 5.b3 line out of business altogether at the high levels. At any rate, Gelfand has managed here to equalize rather efficiently with Black - whether Anand was "worried" or not.
|May-25-12|| ||Pedro Fernandez: This game simply show us that Gelfand comes to this challenge very well prepared. In my opinion the worst game so far.|
|May-25-12|| ||moronovich: <Dr. J: <RookFile: ...If Fischer could get a guarantee that black would play this way, he would score 100 percent with the white pieces.>
I doubt it. Dead people don't play very good chess.>|
Right.But the post mortems should be quite funny.
|May-25-12|| ||Chess Network: I've created a YouTube video of this game:
|May-25-12|| ||Eyal: ...I should add that 5...e5 is efficient only if followed in Gelfand's way, with the advance of the d-pawn on moves 7-9, and not with 8...Qxe4+? as played in that Shaposhnikov vs. Bocharov game from 2001. In this respect, the present game is the first one where the idea was tested seriously.|
|May-28-12|| ||Dr. J: <moronovich: <Dr. J: <RookFile: ...If Fischer could get a guarantee that black would play this way, he would score 100 percent with the white pieces.> I doubt it. Dead people don't play very good chess.>
Right.But the post mortems should be quite funny.>>|
"... Do not, DO NOT, play the Fried Liver Attack!...
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