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Sergey Karjakin vs Vladimir Kramnik
Dortmund Sparkassen (2012), Dortmund GER, rd 1, Jul-13
Scotch Game: Mieses Variation (C45)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jul-13-12  Powerthinker: Eyal, what a @#$% you tell us? c5 B:d3 cb B:f1 wins! Dont speak @#$%, Eyal!
Jul-13-12  kangaroo13: 19.re6 does not make any sense
Jul-13-12  boz: <Powerthinker: Eyal, what a @#$% you tell us? c5 B:d3 cb B:f1 wins! Dont speak @#$%, Eyal!>

Your line only wins after 17.Rhf1.

Eyals line follows 17.c5.

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  Eyal: <Eyal, what a @#$% you tell us? c5 B:d3 cb B:f1 wins! Dont speak @#$%, Eyal!>

I was talking about 17.c5, you @#$%.

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  Eyal: So Kramnik decides to give back the pawn in order to release pressure and exchange pieces.
Jul-13-12  ughaibu: Eyal: so it does. Thanks.
Jul-13-12  Powerthinker: Ok, I wasn't right. My apologies! But , according to my opinion, Karjakin didn't play this line, 'cause black would get the passed pawn d against white's a and 2 bishops.
Jul-13-12  boz: Is there anything left in this position? I don't see it.
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  Stonehenge: <Is there anything left in this position? I don't see it.>

Two pawns on the a file.

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  Eyal: <boz> Yeah, it looks quite drawish now, though perhaps White can claim a very slight edge due to the better pawn structure on the Q-side.
Jul-13-12  Strongest Force: Wow, Carjack owns Kram...Fab is also getting the better game.
Jul-13-12  kangaroo13: i am hoping for a draw because i bet 250 chessbucks on a draw
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  Sneaky: Apparently Irish soccer hooligans like to watch chess during the off-season.
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  Eyal: Looks like Kramnik found a more sophisticated way of gaining back the pawn than 23...Bxh2: 23...Re2 24.Rd2 Rxg7 25.Rxg7 Bf4 26.Rgd7 Rxg2.
Jul-13-12  kangaroo13: 250 chessbucks here i come
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  Eyal: Ok, now it's clearly time to shake hands.
Jul-13-12  kangaroo13: a draw must result because if karjakin moves his king he will lose a pawn
Jul-13-12  Strongest Force: Looks drawish
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  Eyal: If there's an intention to switch games, Caruana-Naiditsch looks interesting.
Jul-13-12  Xeroxx: The draw factor
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  offramp: What would happen after 28...Rxd2+?
Jul-13-12  twinlark: <offramp> Draw.
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  whiteshark: With Sergey Karjakin and Kramnik met two of the tournament favorites in the very first Lap each other. The Russian duel ended in a draw after complicated struggle. The 22-year-old Karjakin, who is considered one of the legitimate successor Kramnik chose to his surprise, the Scotch Opening. The young star sacrificed a pawn in the opening and knocked on his active figures who were threatening to march into the black camp. The 37-year-old former world champion was found, but on the level. He gave the farmer some trains back later and handled in a rook endgame, which was given a draw.

Thank you google, especially for the first and the last sentence.

Jul-14-12  twinlark: <The 37-year-old former world champion was found, but on the level.>

Was that the level crossing where the trains were given back?

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  whiteshark: <Twin> Right! No one can reach google se water when it comes to transläschn. :D
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