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Fabiano Caruana vs Arkadij Naiditsch
Dortmund Sparkassen (2012), Dortmund GER, rd 1, Jul-13
Scotch Game: Potter Variation (C45)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jul-13-12  Eyal: <apparently they're playing with only seconds on the clock, so Naiditsch missed a couple of forced wins starting with Re1+.>

Which required a bit of calculation... for example:

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36...Re1+ 37.Kc2 (37.Kd2 Qe3+ 38.Kc2 Qc1#) 37...Qa4+ 38.Kc3 (38.Kd2 Qxb4+ with a quick mate) 38...Qb3+ 39.Kd4 Rd1+ 40.Kc5 (40.Ke5 Qe3+ 41.Qe4 Qxf2) 40...Qe3+ 41.Kxc4 Qd4+ 42.Kb5 (42.Kb3 Rd3+ 43.Ka4 [43.Ka2 Qc4+] 43...Qa7+ 44.Kb5 Qb6+ 45.Kc4 Rd4+ etc.) 42...Qb6+ 43.Ka4 Qa6+ 44.Kb3 Rd3+ and White has to give up the queen for the black rook: 45.Qxd3 (45.Kc2 Qc4+ 46.Kb1 Rd1#) 45...Qxd3+.

Jul-13-12  Open Defence: Naiditsch's decision to complicate with 24...Qa8 turns out was the right practical decision
Jul-13-12  bigchris: <abuzic: 36...Qa4+ 37.Rc2 then what?> you are right. 36...Re1+ was the move
Jul-13-12  random1: However my line only leads to a draw through perpetual check.
Jul-13-12  Fianchettofemme: ...ho-hum..drawn.
Jul-13-12  Eyal: Meanwhile, on the other boards: Leko-Pono 1/2, Fridman-Gustafsson 1/2, Meier-Bartel 1-0. So if this game ends in a draw, which now seems likely, Meier will emerge as the sole leader after the first round (though probably not for long...).
Jul-13-12  bigchris: 36...Re1+ 37.Kc2 Re5 38.Qf3 Re3 39.Qf5 Qa4+ 40.Kd2 Rd3+

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Jul-13-12  haydn20: Now 42. Rd8+ Kh7 43. Rd7 Kg6 44. Rxc7 should be drawn.
Jul-13-12  Eyal: <36...Re1+ 37.Kc2 Re5 38.Qf3 Re3 39.Qf5 Qa4+ 40.Kd2 Rd3+>

Yeah, that's another way to do it - maybe somewhat easier to calculate than the long series of checks that I gave earlier; but here Black also has to take into account 39.Qh1, and see 39...Qa4+ 40.Kb1 and then the "quiet" 40...Qxb4! threatening Re1+ (41.Rf1 Re2 and mate).

Jul-13-12  JoergWalter: if this is a draw, I'll give up playing. However, this game is a rollercoaster ride for quite a while.
Jul-13-12  ajile: It's been drawn.
Jul-13-12  milanmaheshwari: couldn't understand the finishing
Jul-13-12  karnak64: Wasn't that fun?
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  AgentRgent: I can't stand these GMs accepting draws when there's still some life in the position! ;)
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Jul-13-12  Fianchettofemme: Book draw... study your endgames!
Jul-13-12  jhelix70: LOL, been a while since I've seen bare kings
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  eternaloptimist: Yep Naiditsch blew yet another endgame w/ 36...♙h6??. Some ppl already pointed out that 36...♖e1+ would've done the trick. Caruana got lucky; he should've lost this game. Naiditsch has to improve his endgame if he's ever going to consistently beat the high 2700+ GMs. Still a draw w/ black vs Caruana isn't an easy goal to accomplish. Thx CG for the live coverage!
Jul-13-12  Eyal: <Caruana missed 30.Qf2! [preparing Re1] with the idea of 30...Re2

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Btw, in Carlsen vs E Tomashevsky, 2012 from the recent Tal Memorial both players missed a similar tactical idea; after Carlsen's 34.Rxd6:

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Tomashevsky could have equalized immediately with 34...Rfd8!

Jul-13-12  Edeltalent: <jhelix70: LOL, been a while since I've seen bare kings>

Well, it hasn't been <that> long ;-) Nakamura vs Y Shulman, 2012

Jul-13-12  Akshay999: Naiditsch missed 36... Re1+ win after Caruana dispatched all winning opportunities to heaven!!
Jul-13-12  galdur: Well fought to the naked kings.
Jul-14-12  tarek1: At the end 59...Kd5!! by Black is a brilliant pawn sacrifice, grabbing the initative.
Jul-14-12  Eyal: <Naiditsch blew yet another endgame w/ 36...h6??. Some ppl already pointed out that 36...Re1+ would've done the trick […] Naiditsch has to improve his endgame if he's ever going to consistently beat the high 2700+ GMs.>

This has nothing to do with "endgame" play (or knowledge) in the normal sense of the term; it was a matter of pure tactics, or calculation, to find the forcing win starting with 36...Re1+ (it has to be forcing, since with 36.Qf5 White is threatening mate in two). And at that point Naiditsch was already playing on increments - just like Caruana, who also made quite a few blunders at the later stage of the game. Naiditsch's real problem in this game was his time management in the middlegame, or the transition from opening to middlegame – he spent a very big amount of time on some earlier moves (such as 12...Ng6), and so was left with only about 15 minutes for the last 20 moves before the time control in a hyper-complex and tricky tactical position. He did manage to find some very good attacking ideas, but not to execute them fully or accurately enough.

Jul-14-12  Eyal: Position after 36.Qf5:

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With very little time to calculate, perhaps the trickiest point is to see that after 36...Re1+ 37.Kc2 Qa4+ 38.Kc3 Qb3+ 39.Kd4, it's necessary to play <39...Rd1+!> (since an immediate 39...Qe3+ leads to nothing after 40.Kxc4 Rc1+ 41.Rc2) 40.Kc5 Qe3+; and note that after 41.Kc6 Qb6+ 42.Kd7 Qd6+ 43.Kc8 it still isn't mate - Black has to play the "quiet" 43...Rxd5, defending g5, and now White has either to give up his queen for the black rook, or to allow a quick mate.

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