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Kevin Martin McDonald vs Nicholas Rosenthal
Epicure GP Tourn. #2 -12, G/40 5 (2011) (rapid), Miami Country Day School, rd 2, Oct-29
French Defense: Steinitz. Boleslavsky Variation (C11)  ·  1-0



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Dec-25-12  Bengambit: 32.Ng5xe6........
Dec-25-12  vinidivici: lol
This is an example how an expert underestimated an amateur and get BUSTED.

It just for me but i see the move 8...Qa5+ is a weak. For the particular position the queen retreat should go back to the camp. And the intent for black to underestimate his opponent become clear with 13...g5 (he just need to castle). Ridiculously, the black kings move at #26 and #27 personifies his regret.

And the knight sacrifice at the opening just very doubtful. Because black's ignorant at the opening, he had to defense his side most of the game. Never underestimate your opponent unless you have 500+ rating more.

Dec-25-12  Kikoman: <Nxe6> and that's it. Mate is inevitable. :)x
Dec-25-12  zb2cr: How on Earth did Black get his Rooks stuck in such a passive configuration? 32. Nxe6 threatens the Queen and mate on g7 simultaneously. If 32. ... fxe6; 33. Qxf8#.
Dec-25-12  King.Arthur.Brazil: Didn't think much: Nxe6! not fxe6 due to Qxf8++. BQ is trapped and Qxg7++ too. Nothing to do. By the way: Happy Christmas everyone!
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  OhioChessFan: Two themes, the Knight fork of c7 and g7, and the overworked piece, oddly enough, the f7 Pawn. It must guard e6 and shield f8. The fork puts the question to the Pawn and the position crumbles.
Dec-25-12  Abdel Irada: <OhioChessFan: Two themes, the Knight fork of c7 and g7>

No less oddly, the fork ultimately matters not at all. The queen on c7 matters not at all, just as it mattered not on c1, and just as the rook it took matters not; material, generally, counts for nothing here.

There is a strange kind of "fork" that means everything here: that of the mate on f8 allowed by taking the knight, and of the mate on g7 allowed by not taking it.

A paradoxical game on the whole: material is immaterial, and the fork bifurcates in time.

Dec-25-12  DanielBryant: Today's was far easier than yesterday's (which is not to say that yesterday's was difficult).
Dec-25-12  rilkefan: <morfishine>, I was just going by the CG notation below the comment box. Playing a game in 40 minutes counts as rapid in my book - anyway, the ratings and the move #s and the position suggest to me that the last moves were blitzed out, probably partly as an attempted swindle.
Dec-25-12  Abdel Irada: <the last moves were blitzed out, probably partly as an attempted swindle.>

As I commented above, I think both players saw very clearly what was going to happen, and if Black's queen offer was a "swindle," it was a rather pointless and psychological one, leaving him with an irretrievably lost game.

I see the move as pure desperation, and had it "worked," I think Black would have simply resigned, consoling himself by having denied to his lower-rated opponent the opportunity to win spectacularly. This was why it pleased me to see White ignore it as the irrelevancy it was.

Dec-25-12  lost in space: Took me much longer than usual so early in the week. But finally I found 32. Nxe6.

Merry Christmas everybody

Dec-25-12  BOSTER: The big misanderstanding.
Black should play 13...b5 chasing the knight a4, but his right hand was busy-holding the cup of coffee, so he decided to play 13...g5 by left hand . Could he expect to see the knight a4 on d6?
Dec-25-12  rilkefan: <<Abdel Irada>: As I commented above>

You've got a hunch, I've got a little data to point to - to each his own.

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  Once: The problem with speculation is that we really don't know what was happening. White might have been down to a handful of seconds, so black was trying everything he could to prolong the game. Or both players were bashing out moves.

Or maybe both players knew what was happening and were sharing a private joke about the amusing finale.

Or they were lifelong enemies and white was torturing black

Or ...

Dec-25-12  LIFE Master AJ: Pretty easy, 32.NxP/e6, and Black is toast.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, everyone!!!!!!!!

Happy New Year!!!

Dec-25-12  LIFE Master AJ: Question: I was heavily bashed for submitting a game vs. a 2000 player. So why then are we looking at a game by an 1800?
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  fm avari viraf: Merry Christmas-an easy gift Nxe6 to celebrate!
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  morfishine: <rilkefan> Yes, I found the same notation directly below the names of the opponents above the board. I guess anything below tournament time controls is either rapid, speed, blitz or lightning.
Dec-25-12  Nullifidian: 32. ♘xe6 is mate in 2. Either White wins with 33. ♕xg7# or 33. ♕xf8# following 32... ♙fxe6.
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  Phony Benoni: <Once: Now I think we can see why fianchettoing rooks has never really caught on.>

M Vidmar Jr vs Vidmar, 1947

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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: But check out A Pomar-Salamanca vs Petrosian, 1970
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  Phony Benoni: <Gregor Samsa Mendel> That explains Petrosian's exchange sacrifices. He thought his rooks were bishops!
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  morfishine: <Gregor Samsa Mendel> That was a great Petrosian game! Thanks for showing that!

BTW: McDonald has a highest rating of 1900 in the database and Rosenthal has a rating of 2036, so these are not "fish"

Dec-25-12  LIFE Master AJ: "Fish" is a comparative term.

To the tiny minnow, a barracuda is an imposing figure. However, if you are a great white shark, you hardly blink at the silver bullet.

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  kevin86: The first move is a triple attack and mate threat...the second move is...mate!
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