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Michael Adams vs Magnus Carlsen
London Chess Classic (2012), London ENG, rd 5, Dec-06
Spanish Game: Closed. Martinez Variation (C78)  ·  0-1



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Dec-06-12  notyetagm: Adams vs Carlsen, 2012

43 ... ♕f3-h1+!

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  Domdaniel: <   Fusilli: Did Adams really play 64.Ke3-d4 as a last nonsensical, lame move before resigning? Weird.>

In games broadcast on the web, it's a standard practice to place one or both Kings in the centre of the board to signify that the game is over.

Dec-06-12  Atking: 29.Qc6 looks at least equal. I mean 29...RxN 30.QxQ Bh2+ 31.KxB RxQ 32.Rc1 Rd5 33.Rxc7 Rxb5 34.Rd3 Or 29...Qf7 30.Nf3 waiting for b6.
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  Gypsy: Nice to see the flawless pure-pawns endgame at the close.
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  Big Pawn: <Domdaniel: 2860 or not, inflation aside, I just don't believe that Magnus is now the Best Playa Ever.>

Let's see if Carlsen can dominate in tournament play like Fischer ~1970. And as far as being world champion is concerned I think it's becoming irrelevant. Anand is number 7 on the live rating list. The new generation is in and the old one is on its way out.

Magnus is almost 100 elo points higher than the world champion. His performances and his rating speak for themselves. He is obviously the best player in the world today - clearly in a league of his own. He is approaching 2900 now that he is over 2860!!

The world chess championship is now sort of meaningless in terms of showing us who is, truly, playing the strongest chess on earth today.

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  Everett: <2860 or not, inflation aside, I just don't believe that Magnus is now the Best Playa Ever.>

Neither do I. It seems he gets into trouble nearly every other game. Yes, he pulls out of it, and he is winning every tournament in site practically, but one can hardly recommend how he gets there.

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  ajk68: I think I learned something from this game. 45...Qxd6. I would have thought connecting the pawns. Leaving the pawn on the c-file leaves a locker for the b-pawn.

Is this the way a GM sees it, or is there something else?

Dec-06-12  positionalgenius: Another interesting game between these two. Unfortunately, Adams always seems to be on the losing side.
Dec-06-12  DanielBryant: <ajk68> I'm no GM but I'd think a passed b-pawn is worth more to White than connected pawns for Black.
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  AgentRgent: Let wonderboy at least to TRY to topple the champ before hand him the throne shall we?
Dec-06-12  Shams: <AgentRgent>Better yet, let's chop the throne up for firewood and end this silly discussion forever.
Dec-06-12  bubuli55: Nasty!
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  Fusilli: <DanielBryant: <ajk68> I'm no GM but I'd think a passed b-pawn is worth more to White than connected pawns for Black.> That's basically it, at least in queen's endings, although all rules allow for exceptions. In a queen's ending, a passer is ultradangerous. Black already got his, and there is no need for connected pawns. In a rook ending it might be different, though.
Dec-06-12  Shams: <bubuli55> Is that directed at me? Sorry, didn't mean to sound nasty. Just tired of this ouroboros of an argument.
Dec-06-12  bubuli55: < Shams > Sorry. That's not about your comments. I just had another look at the game :)
Dec-06-12  bubuli55: <45...Qxd6 > in my opinion, Q on d1 is out of position. Black would need a couple of extra moves to get to the right square. Which will not have happened here. Qxd6 puts the Q in controlling the center and protects his side of the board. And keeping a passed pawn. All in one stroke. :)
Dec-06-12  bubuli55: Notice that Black challenged the White Q at center after that. I don't know :)
Dec-07-12  Steve.Patzer: What is the greatest disparity between the top ranked player and the second highest? What is the most rating points the world champion has ever trailed the leader?
Dec-07-12  Shams: <Steve.Patzer> Fischer's ELO was 125 points higher than the #2 player in the world (Spassky) in the July 1972 rating list. That is the highest disparity between #1 and #2 as regards official rating lists; I expect at some point an enterprising chess fan will back-calculate historical "live rating" lists and we may get a different number.

I don't know the answer to your second question for sure, but surely Spassky's 125-point gap is a strong candidate.

Dec-07-12  WiseWizard: The way he maneuvered the Queen and Rook to attack b5 pawn and protect his own at the same time: Magnifique!
Dec-11-12  sfm: Seeing that the endgame after 52.-,Qxc4!! is won takes one unbelievably tough MF.
Dec-11-12  bubuli55: A critical point was reached with 36...Qf5. I suspect Adams having the advantage until a few moves back, instead of exchanging Qs and reach a highly probable drawish position, wanted to keep the Qs and put pressure on Black's e6 pawn. He may have been feeling good about his game and that if has to win the tournament he would need to win this game. But what followed was that Carlsen found the forcing moves. And it did not help that he was pressed in time in move 40.
Dec-28-12  fgh: <Shams>:
Jun-08-13  notyetagm: Adams vs Carlsen, 2012

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43 ... ♕f3-h1+!

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44 ♔h3-g4 ♕h1-d1+ <fork: g4,d6>

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45 ♔g4-h3 ♕d1xd6

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43 ... Qf3-h1+! forces 44 Kh3-g4 Qh1-d1+ (FORK: g4,d6) and 45 ... Qd1xd6, winning the White d6-pawn without giving White a passer on the b-file by ... c7xd6?!

Aug-05-13  Samuel David: very nice endgame
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