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Magnus Carlsen vs Erwin L'Ami
Tata Steel Group A (2013), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 10, Jan-23
Caro-Kann Defense: Classical Variation (B18)  ·  1-0

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Jan-23-13  Everett: I cannot recall the Q being harassed so many times by the same piece, in this case White's DSB.
Jan-23-13  AgentRgent: <Check It Out: Any expected lines on the upcoming moves had L'Ami played on?> 65...Rd5+ 66. Kf4 Bc4 67. g4 Rd1 would probably be my approach, but it loses eventually.
Jan-23-13
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  Jimfromprovidence: Position looks like a draw, according to the engine analysis on the tournament website, which goes out 20 ply.

+1.23

65 …Rd5+ 66.Kf6 Bc4 67.Ra8+ Kh7 68.f4 Rb5 69.f5 Bd3 70.Rxa2 Rxf5+ 71.Ke7 Rb5 72.Rd2 Bc4 73.Bc3 Rb6 74.Rd7 Kg6 75.Rc7


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Jan-23-13  Tiggler: <achieve: <marc> I may have exaggerated a bit (and I take predictions with percentages rather loosely) - but I was very impressed when Kramnik divulged at the latest edition of the LCC that he has been preparing for the candidates for over a year already!>

Contrast that with Aronian's video interview at Wijk today: he said you can't really prepare for the candidates except to hire some guru. Hmm, this makes me want to agree that Levon is not a serious contender, but he is not a player to be underestimated.

Jan-23-13  Tiggler: Not guru, he said shaman. More appropriate for his mysterious part of the world. Maybe a sufi would do.
Jan-23-13  Tiggler: <beenthere240: Now the knight's route is h1, f2, d3, e5 "If we had world enough and time.">

<Marvell>ously apt comment for a Carlsen game: he always seems to have plenty of time and a win in 70-90 moves is always quick enough.

Meanwhile, his opponents at their back always hear <time's winged chariot hurrying near>.

Jan-23-13  Nicocobas: <haydn20> Get a T.A. :-)
Jan-23-13  Tiggler: <Cemoblanca: <Ulhumbrus: Ng3-h1-f2-h3-g5? Have you all been reading Nimzowitsch?> Are you a clairvoyant, or what??? :D

Yesterday, I had "My System" in my hands! ;)>

You need to have it in your bones to play like Nimzo, <Cemoblanca>. I think Carlsen does.

Jan-23-13  Tiggler: If the score of this game or the Carlsen-Karjakin game were to be lost and discovered in some attic in 100 years, I think an art appraiser would be able to authenticate it as a Carlsen game. Just from the brush strokes.
Jan-23-13  LivBlockade:


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As Black, I might try to defend with 54... Rd7 (instead of ...Ra3).

<Ulhumbrus:> I saw your comment from page 11 <54..Rd7 answers the threat of Bf8 but not of Ra5> but what do you think of 54...Rd7; 55. Ra5 Rb7 (Black's idea is to attempt to control the b5 square)?

It's a very passive strategy for Black, but can White find a winning plan after 54... Rd7?

Thanks.

Jan-24-13  BlackSheep: Blacks queen was kicked around the board on six occasions by the DSB and he was eager as a beaver to exchange queens even though he was a pawn down with a crap position just to stop it , I think he thought he might bail out with an opposite colour B draw until Magnus blew his mind and his chances .
Jan-24-13
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  Eyal: <Jimfromprovidence: Position looks like a draw, according to the engine analysis on the tournament website, which goes out 20 ply. +1.23

65 …Rd5+ 66.Kf6 Bc4 67.Ra8+ Kh7 68.f4 Rb5 69.f5 Bd3 70.Rxa2 Rxf5+ 71.Ke7 Rb5 72.Rd2 Bc4 73.Bc3 Rb6 74.Rd7 Kg6 75.Rc7>

Of course White is winning in the final position (although L'Ami could have played for a bit longer). <AgentRgent> already mentioned what seems to be a simpler winning method, but if we start with the engine line then White should win comfortably after 70.Be5! Bc4 71.Ra7+ Kg8 (71...Kh8 72.Ra5 Rb6+ 73.Ke7+ Kh7 74.Ra7/a8) 72.Kg6 followed by Kxh5.

Jan-24-13
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  Check It Out: <AgentRgent: <Check It Out: Any expected lines on the upcoming moves had L'Ami played on?> 65...Rd5+ 66. Kf4 Bc4 67. g4 Rd1 would probably be my approach, but it loses eventually.>

Right. At least that reduces white's kingside pawns to two, g & h.

I instinctively felt L'Ami resigned a bit too early, even though his position was paradoxically resign-able.

Jan-24-13  morfishine: <beenthere240> On your comment <The c pawn was the target for most of the game> Thats why I liked 27.Qb7 (instead of 27.Qd6). Black would then put a rook on the e-file. He doesn't mind changing an isolated c-pawn to an isolated d-pawn
Jan-24-13
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  Jimfromprovidence: <Eyal> I love that 65 …Rd5+ 66.Kf6 Bc4 67.Ra8+ Kh7 68.f4 Rb5 69.f5 Bd3 <70.Be5! Bc4 71.Ra7+ Kg8> variation.


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After 72 Kg6 a mate in one threat becomes possible; now black must play 72...Bd5 in response. White follows with 73 Rd7 to keep the mate in one threat in play.


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Black is forced to play 73..Rb6+ , making white do what he wants to do anyway, 74 Kxh5.


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To me the key is for white to go with 66 Kf6 after 65...Rd5+. 66 Kf4 probably is either too slow or unnecessary as it's the mate traps caused by white's advanced king that wins from this position.

Jan-24-13
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  Ron: Carlsen's play here reminds me of the style of Tarrasch, Capablanca, Fisher--space and mobility for his pieces.
Jan-25-13  lost in space: prediction: 0:1
Jan-25-13  lost in space: During the game I had the impression that 22...e4 would have a been a good move - instead of 22...Qb6.

I dedicede to first check deep ply 22...e4, after wards 22...Qb6.

Here the result of 22... e4:


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shredder 12, d=26

A: +0,54; 23. fxe4 Bxe4 24. Ng3 Bg6 25. Bd3 26. Bxg6 fxg6 27. Ne4 Qa6

B: +0,39; 23. Bxd5 cxd5 24. Nf4 exf3 25. gxf3 Qb7 26. Re1 Re8 27. Qa5 Nb6

C: +0,28; 23. Nc3 Nxc3 24. Qxc3 Nb6 24. fxe4 Nxc4 26. Bxc4 Bxe4 27. Re1 f5

More after the analyze of the 22...Qb6 line is as seep as this one.

Jan-26-13  Tiggler: <lost in space>:<More after the analyze of the 22...Qb6 line is as seep as this one.>

I think <chrisowen> said the same.

Jan-27-13  lost in space: I have <chrisowen> on ignore (in sum if have 2 on ignore); not because I don't like what he posts or something like that, simply because I get only half of the meaning of his cryptic posts.

Here now the analyze after 22...Qb6

shredder 12, d=26

A: +0,76; 23. Nc3 Nxc3 24. Qxc3 Re8 25. Bf1 Rac8 26. Bc5 Nxc5 27. dxc5 (26. Bc5 seems not to be optimal from my point of view)

B: +0,64; Bd6 exd4 24. Nxd4 N7f6 25. Bg3 Nb4 26. Qf2 Rd7 27. a3

C: +0,27; Bxd5....

Seems, that 22...e4 was not that bad.

Jan-27-13  voyager39: I think the reason why lower rated local players are invited is that they can learn by fighting against the best and also inspire the youngsters.

Such resignations betray the very reason for inviting such players.

Feb-03-13  Ulhumbrus: < Bobby Fiske: <Eyal> Now, that was a mighty sharp analyze of his end game magic... > One may spell it out in further detail by saying that if we add a pair of rooks to the opposite coloured bishops the superior side has, with a king, an unopposable bishop and a rook acquired sufficient material to start a mating attack.

That means that in addition to all other threats the superior side has acquired the threat of checkmating the opposiing king.

Given that White replies to 55...Rxa2 with 56 Kf4! this suggests that Black may be advised better to delay the capture 55....Rax2 and to play first 55...Kf5! White's a pawn isn't going anywhere but now White's king is kept back at least for the moment after eg 56 Rxg7 Rxa2 and Black threatens presently, if White allows it, to do to White what White actually did to Black 56...Bf1 and 57...Rxg2+

Feb-03-13
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  Eyal: <Given that White replies to 55...Rxa2 with 56 Kf4! this suggests that Black may be advised better to delay the capture 55....Rax2 and to play first 55...Kf5!>

55...Kf5 is unplayable simply because of 56.Ra5, winning the bishop. At this stage of the game, Black's best chance might have been to defend more passively a few moves earlier by e.g. 53...Rd7, challenging White's control of the 7th rank before he completes the Bc5-f8 maneuver and ruins Black's K-side.

Feb-03-13  csmath: <What caught my eye while watching the play this afternoon was the high number of Queen moves l'Ami made in the opening and middlegame>

I don't see problem there, the problem is bad "tactical" play with 21. ... e5 which Magnus immediately refuted with a series of moves that left black king's position vulnerable and resulted with the loss of pawn. It is clearly positional pressure that L'Ami could not stand and made a positional error in search of some tactical binds that were not there. No player of sub-2700 can withstand positional pressure Magnus creates when he gets upper hand in the opening. In this game opening a2-g8 diagonal with 21. ... e5 was a major positional error.

The rest of the game is superbly technical.
What chances L'Ami had with pawn down against Carlsen? None.

Feb-04-13  Ulhumbrus: <55...Kf5 is unplayable simply because of 56.Ra5, winning the bishop. < Another alternative: 54...a3 55 Bf8 Bc4 and if 56 Kf4 Bf7 obstructing White's rook
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