| Mar-19-13 | | Shams: Yay, triple crown today! |
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| Mar-19-13 | | DcGentle: At move 26, 2 minutes left for Ivanchuk on the clock. |
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Mar-19-13
 | | AylerKupp: Good thing that Ivanchuk is the highest rated blitz player in the tournament. |
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| Mar-19-13 | | Shams: The Bishop on h2 has a long way to go to become Pope. |
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Mar-19-13
| | AylerKupp: Oops, my mistake. It's Grischuk that's the highest. |
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Mar-19-13
| | AylerKupp: Amazing. In the main site Houdini 2.0 evaluates the position as even, even though Black is a piece down. Of course, White's bishop isn't exactly mobile at the moment. |
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| Mar-19-13 | | Marmot PFL: c3 always a threat |
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Mar-19-13
| | AylerKupp: Dang! <Shams> comment about White's bishop was better than mine. |
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| Mar-19-13 | | DcGentle: Somehow I doubt that we will see move 40 in this game, but who knows. |
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Mar-19-13
 | | WannaBe: Don't get flagg'd again, Vassily! |
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| Mar-19-13 | | Anatoly21: Perpetual. |
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| Mar-19-13 | | Geronimo: Busting out the Chigorin defense is emblematic of everything I love about Chucky's life in chess: When was the last time it was played at this level, and with this much at stake? |
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| Mar-19-13 | | ajile: Weird position. White has material advantage but the bishop is buried. White needs to play f3 for the piece to escape. |
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| Mar-19-13 | | DcGentle: Yes, must be a draw. |
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| Mar-19-13 | | Pedro Fernandez: With that white bishop badly placed there is not any chance here. |
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| Mar-19-13 | | Marmot PFL: well that fizzled out |
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| Mar-19-13 | | dehanne: Gelfand was in time trouble as well around move 30, it's understandable he took the perpetual. |
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Mar-19-13
 | | HeMateMe: Why couldn't white play 23 PxN, at d5? |
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| Mar-19-13 | | whiteshark: Quote of the Day
<Chess is a fighting game which is purely intellectual and excludes chance. >
-- Reti |
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| Mar-19-13 | | Ezzy: The only other time Ivanchuk played the Chigorin was in 1995 against Kasparov (no less.) Ivanchuk lost that game. |
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| Mar-19-13 | | Marmot PFL: 31 a4 might give white some chances, but it's a very hard position to play |
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| Mar-19-13 | | JENTA: 20 ...c5 - Ivanchuk-style: black's king is still on the diagonal h2-b8. 21. dc5 Rc5 22. e4! - Threatens black's central Nd5. 22...Rhc8 (If 22... fe4, then 23. f5+ and bishop on h2 is again alive.) 23. Rc1 - Why not 23. ed5, I do not grasp.
I think for example:
23. ed5 Rd5 24. Qf3 Rd2 25. Rd2 Qd2 26. Qd3 and black's queen is "captured": black has to echagne the queens.
(Of course not 26. Rd1? Qc2+ 27. Ka1 Qc1+ 28. Rc1 Rc1#)
26... Rc2 27. Qd2 Rd2 28. Bd1 Nc4 29. Bc2
Perhaps I am missing something?
Or perhaps even 25. Bd3 . |
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| Mar-20-13 | | furrer: To Jenta:
Strong after 23. exd5 Rxd5 24. Qf3 is 24. ... Bd2! as suggested by the players and 24. ... Rxd1 (suggested at chessbase.com) 25. Rxd1 (25. Bxd1 is a blunder as black enters with the queen I think) Qxd1! 26. Bxd1 Nc4!
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Best for white is now 27. Kc2! Nd3 28. Qc3 Bxc3 29. bxc3 Nc4
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and this endgame is probably equal. Black is behind in material but whites pieces are badly placed. Try to play around with it yourself, it is a very interesting endgame.
24. ... Bd2 as Gelfand and Ivanchuk had considered and which might had happened at the board is very unclear even with computeranalysis. It seems, that black has enough compensation to maintain equality and pressure white. A sample line is:
25. Rhf1!? (ask the computers why this is right...) 25. ... Qa4 26. Bd3 Bc3!
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After the seemingly forced 27. bxc3 Rc6 28. Rd2 Rb6 29. Rb2 (Ka1 loses to Nb3) 29. ... Nc4!
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and black seems to be winning, as 30. Bxc4 fails to Rxb2 and Rd2 followed by Qxc4 with mate on a2 and after 30. Rxb6 Nd2 31. Ka1 Nxf3 32. Rb4 Qc6 33. Rc4 Qd6 34. Nxf3 Rxd3 blacks position looks dominating.
This is just a sample line and probably 25. Rhf1!? is a huge mistake - it looks like a non-move to me - but the engines give it as the best at 20 ply still.
This tells us, just how complicated the position is, and why Gelfand wisely avoided it, as black probably has all the play.
A fantastic, genius game after 20. ... c5 in my opinion. |
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Apr-02-13
 | | Honza Cervenka: <dehanne: Gelfand was in time trouble as well around move 30, it's understandable he took the perpetual.> There was nothing better for him than that. Btw, 32.Kc1?? loses on the spot for 32...Rc8 or even prettier 32...Bd2+. |
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| Apr-02-13 | | Juninho: What?
How can a GM play a non-forced 16. f4?? What's the opposition of Nxd6 with a bishop pair? No, this is a horrible blunder of the viewing to do something for a win. He killed his own bishop at h2, it had to be clea for him. Vassily... I love his style, Chigorin is a really poor openning, but he realised Boris can't take on it. However, Vassily is a real talent, a wonderful man, I remember he beat Kasparov three times at normal clock, in a Sicilian even he destroyed him as nobody else can do and now he beat the favorites 2800+. I'm a bit sad he was not a hard-working man and could be low-level sometimes, he would have been a WC if he had equalized his fluctuation. |
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