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Maxime Vachier-Lagrave vs Ding Liren
"These Dings Happen" (game of the day Nov-28-2018)
Alekhine Memorial (2013), Paris/St Petersburg FRA/RUS, rd 2, Apr-22
Caro-Kann Defense: Advance. Tal Variation (B12)  ·  1-0

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Apr-24-13
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  OhioChessFan: 10. Kd2 is the Delayed Wannabe Gambit, Queenside Variation
Apr-24-13
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  Eyal: Well, the fact that White can so easily get away here with something like 10.Kd2 is a good indication of how atrocious Black's prospects become once he allows White to put the pawn on e6 and can't force it away from there.
Apr-25-13  haydn20: I just got around to this, uh, "thing, and already I'm not seeing why not 7...fxe6. Oh, and why not 11...a5 to keep a6 open for the N when White tries Nc3-a4-c5? Just wondering.
Apr-25-13  haydn20: Here I am at move 22 and surely he'll continue with c5 and Oh good God, he's castled into it.
Apr-26-13
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  Eyal: <already I'm not seeing why not 7...fxe6> White <wants> Black to play this move - after 8.Bd3 he has similar nagging development problems; that's why, as I've mentioned, nearly all the top players who go for this line with Black play 7...Qd6 to force exf7+ (and why MVL played 8.Bf4! to prevent it once Ding went for 7...Nf6). Chessbase db features 74 games with 7...fxe6 8.Bd3, in which White scores 74%, and 55 games with 7...Qd6 8.exf7+, in which White scores 56%.
Apr-26-13
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  Phony Benoni: As bizaare as 10.Kd2 might seem, there are precedents. For example, from Spassky vs Seirawan, 1985:


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<8.Kf2!>

Such moves, crazy and illogical as they seem, are likely to become more common due to influence of, all things, the utterly rational and logical machine. They are showing humans that ideas which go against all the teachings of the past can be justified by unique tactial situation on the board.

It's a future where the computer may come up with the actual novelty, but it will still be up to the human to apply the idea over the board as situations arise which could not be foreseen. I think back to the famous Pillsbury - Lasker story, as related by William Ewart Napier.

After Lasker had prevailed in Pillsbury vs Lasker, 1896, Pillsbury analyzed the opening and found a novelty. As Napier says, he spent the next eight years playing the position against Pillsbury, analyzing everything conceivable idea against it.

So came the day of Pillsbury vs Lasker, 1904, and Pillsbury sprung the novelty. He and Napier met at one point during the game, and Napier asked which variation Lasker had played.

Replied Pillsbury with a smile, "The only damn scheme you never tried!"

That sort of story is going to continue. As deeply as the opening may be analyzed, the opponent's imagination is likely to come up with some scheme not thoroughly studied beforehand, and the game will still have to be played. It's going to take more to exhaust chess than many believe.

Apr-29-13  k009ris: Very good game that Knight on g6 was worth R+B!
Jul-02-14  posoo: This is some CLEVER CHESS.

It is precisely da kind of manoevring that Mr. Posoo does NOT engage in on da blitzboard. Too many speculative wingdingings.

Posoo prefers an active, SWOSHBUKKING style that vexes people into a bit of trub trub!

Jul-16-14  pgs58: http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.c... has MVL talking through this game
Dec-26-14  Biff The Understudy: I saw this game live in Paris, it was really a lot of fun. Liren must have been so frustrated...
Apr-28-15  Imran Iskandar: The bishop and the h8 rook is worse than useless in the final stages of the game.
Feb-05-17  Rafaelvleite: I must be getting old, this is completely different and modern chess, very nice to see this new generation! Chess is not dying, is evolving!
May-24-17  Dave12: One of the best one-sided games ever played.
May-24-17  JPi: yes a great concept -Bf8 without life- and a firework of a tactics among them the last one -the quiet Reb1! (RxB R16+ k7 Kc5 for R67#)- The kind of game that all chess fans around the world enjoy,
Dec-27-17  clement41: Fantastic conception by MVL.
The root of black's evils stems from 7 e6!! aka the night attack, making the Bf8 useless and therefore the Rh8 as well. Maxime can be good when it comes to putting the Rh8 on h7: Morozevich vs M Vachier-Lagrave, 2009
Mar-10-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 28 dpa

1. = (0.00): 11...fxe6 12.Rb1 Qd8 13.Rxb7 Nfd7 14.g5 e5 15.Bxe5 Nxe5 16.dxe5 d4 17.Ne4 Nd7 18.Kc1 Nxe5 19.Nf4 Bf5 20.Bh3 Bxh3 21.Rxh3 Qc8 22.Qxd4 Qxb7 23.Qxe5 Qb4 24.Ne6 Qe1+ 25.Kb2 Qb4+ 26.Kc1 Qe1+

2. + / = (0.33): 11...Qd8 12.Qb1 b6 13.g5 Nh5 14.exf7+ Kxf7 15.Bh3 Nxf4 16.Nxf4 Qd6 17.Nce2 Ke8 18.Qg1 Na6 19.g6 Bg8 20.Qe3 Nc7 21.a4 e6 22.a5 Rb8 23.axb6 axb6 24.Rhb1 Be7 25.Nh5 Bf8 26.Kc1 Kd8 27.Nhf4 Be7 28.h5 Bg5 29.Ra7 Ra8

Nov-28-18
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  andrewjsacks: The opening from Jupiter.
Nov-28-18
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  andrewjsacks: The word "odd" is hardly good enough for this game.
Nov-28-18
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  al wazir: What happens after 10...Bxc2 ?

If 11. Qe1, then 11...Be4+ 12. Ke3 Nxg4+. I suppose white has to play 11. Qc1, allowing the ♕ swap and leaving black two ♙s up.

Or is it better to play 11. Qxc2 ? If black takes the ♖ his ♕ is trapped: 11...Qxa1 12. exf7+ Kxf7 13. Bg2 e6 14. Nge2 Qxh1 15. Bxh1 g5.

White has ♕+♗ vs. ♖+♖+♙+♙.

Nov-28-18  Ironmanth: Bizarre game that I don't understand at first glimpse. Wow! Thanks, chessgames. Happy, safe, and sacred holidays to all.
Nov-28-18
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  catlover: <al wazir> If 11. Qxc2 Qxa1, it looks like MVL lost a rook for a bishop. But Liren's queen will have a hard time getting out of there alive: 10... Bxc2 11. Qxc2 Qxa1 12. Bg2 Na6 13. Nge2 and there's nothing better than 13...Qxh1.
Nov-28-18
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  catlover: <al wazir> Oops. I missed where you mentioned that same line. Sorry...I posted this morning before my first cup of coffee.
Nov-28-18
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  Breunor: Ok I think I need to play through that one again ., and again .
Nov-28-18  WhiteRook48: So how could Black have defended himself better in the opening? It seems that it was already lost before the 10th move, if not even earlier.
Nov-29-18
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  perfidious: <WhiteRook48: So how could Black have defended himself better in the opening?>

A good place to start would have been the prudent 5....Bd7.

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