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Magnus Carlsen vs Hao Wang
Norway Chess (2013), Sandnes NOR, rd 8, May-17
English Opening: Symmetrical Variation. General (A30)  ·  0-1

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Jul-19-14  Moszkowski012273: I'm pretty sure 71.Rg6... would of drew this game.
Jul-19-14  kevin86: The game ends in a lucena type ending with the pawn going in for a queen.

Passed Pawns must be pushed!

Jul-19-14  Nick46: Wang Hao - KA-POW !
Jul-19-14  Marmot PFL: Just remembered from this game that 64 Kf2 would have drawn, so 64...d3 pushing the outside passed pawn has to be good. Now Kd4-c3 is possible and the WK is too far away. f4 can be played later to free Rh3.
Jul-19-14  olinart: Anyone see what was wrong with 30 Rxc7? Too subtle a trap for me?
Jul-19-14
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  plang: 30 Rxc6..Qa8 and the pin looks awkward for White maybe?!
Jul-19-14  rickycota: Why not instead of 34. h4 do Rd3? is the pawn already lost?
Jul-19-14  Chris321: I saw 64... d3 as the only sensible move,but i could not see a way for black to win,i didnt make use of an engine and work out many variations,but non winning,ill check with an engine some time...but i wonder if this was "absolutely"a forced win in ALL! variations,maybe yes maybe no?...anyway a nice puzzle,hard! to find the hidden resource...g3 at the end!
Jul-19-14  Chris321: <Moszkowski012273: I'm pretty sure 71.Rg6... would of drew this game.>yes ecxactly!that was one of the problems that made me wonder if this wins in all possible lines¿?
Jul-19-14
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  agb2002: I haven't found the time to study today's puzzle but I think I would have tried 64... d3 with the idea of winning another pawn by diverting either the white king or rook, or at least trading the d-pawn and White's g-pawn.
Jul-19-14
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  Jimfromprovidence: Can't tell for sure but I think that 64...d3 clearly is winning.

Beside the text line one other way to go is 65 Kf2 d2 66 Ke2 Rxg3 67 Kxd2 Rh3.


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White can't both defend the h pawn and prevent black's two passed pawns from advancing.

As far as 71 Rg6 goes I'm not seeing any logic or lines to support it. Black playing 71...f4 in response looks like the way to go.


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White will either have to give up his rook or allow black to queen in order to keep the rook.

Jul-20-14
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  OhioChessFan: Pretty easy endgame. Got a passed pawn? Push it.
Jul-20-14
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  OhioChessFan: 64. Kf2 f4 65. gxf4+ Kxf4
Do the engines say this is drawn? Regardless, I sure wouldn't want to play that as White.


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Jul-20-14  Moszkowski012273: <Jim> play it out it leads to a Queen vs. Rook and Pawn endgame. I honestly don't believe black has a win here.
Jul-20-14  Chris321: 64...d3 and 65...Kd4 is correct that's pretty clear but the checks from the white rook and/or to leave the 6th rank and when aint so clear, for instance later when the white rook go to g6 and if black push the fpawn then white takes gxf,an that pawn might end up together with the white king against against a black rook (all the pawns are off,only as mentioned K+p v K+R,but in this case its a draw because the black King is to far away while the white King march the pawn up to the queening sq and hiding behind or next to the pawn against the Rook checks.Don't know if im dreaming,but it's difficult to get this position i mentioned but it might just be possible,an if it happens its a draw.
Jul-20-14  Chris321: Nope iv'e checked more carefully,it is definately winning for black by force,no matter what white plays,all else is just emty speculation! Even Carlsen must have been surprised by the .. g3+ resource,just shows you how rich chess is!.Thumbs up to Wang Hao!
Feb-26-16  Tuzmor: 56.Kd2 Was the losing move.

The correct way to draw is to play 56.h5! immediately. If black takes the g3 pawn, white can force the draw: 56...Rg1 57.Kd4 Rxg3 58.Ke5! Rf3 59.Ra7+ Kg8 60.h6 d4 61.Kf6 Re3 62.Kg6!

The best black can do is:

56...Re6 57.Ra7 Kf6 58.h6 Ke5 59.Rh7 f4 60.gxf4 Kxf4 61.Rf7+ Kg3 62.h7 Rh6 63.Ke3 Kh2 64.Rf2 Kh3 65.Rf1 d4 66.Ke2 d3 67.Ke1 Kg3 68.Rf7 Kh2 69.Rf2 Kg3

White is in a position to block all of black's progress.

Jul-14-16  Alexandro: The first mistake of Carlsen happened 34. h4? instead of 34. Rook d3! He wouldn't lose the important pawn of column C. The remained moves were consequences of this error. Of course due to the excellent administration of Wang Hao!
Oct-18-19
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  Messiah: Poor wonderkid lost this one terribly.
Oct-18-19  Carrots and Pizza: I used to play the English this way and I used to lose like this too. Makes me feel better to see the best player of all times losing like I did.
Oct-11-20
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  Messiah: AAAAAAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

GUYS

HE MANAGED TO LOSE A SIMPLE DRAWN ENDGAME!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Oct-11-20
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  perfidious: Begone, pathetic wretch!
Oct-11-20
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  Messiah: <perfidious: Begone, pathetic wretch!>

Meltdown?

Oct-11-20
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  perfidious: Ah do bleeve someone heah has huffed some Liesol.....
Apr-28-21
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  Messiah: A very remarkable effort by GM Wang Hao, and especially the victim being Justin makes me very satisfied.

Good job!

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