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Ding Liren vs Ni Hua
"Ding Bats" (game of the day May-30-2013)
Hainan Danzhou GM (2013), Danzhou CHN, rd 7, May-27
Slav Defense: General (D10)  ·  1-0



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May-30-13  ninja warrior: i presume the pun is supposed to refer to ding "hitting it out of the park" or some such thing...
May-30-13  shivasuri4: <al wazir>, no, none at all.
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  watwinc: Was there some reason why White didn't play 39 Ra7?
May-30-13  Ratt Boy: <watwinc: Was there some reason why White didn't play 39 Ra7?> That was my question, as well. The only explanation I can come up with, is time trouble.
May-30-13  Nerwal: 39. ♖a7 ♔e6 40. ♗d4 ♗c8. No better than 39. ♖b8.
May-30-13  psmith: <An Englishman>: "Dingbat" has been a word since long before there was any such font... But it's mainly a US usage, so maybe that's why you don't know it. (Main meaning: a crazy person, or fool. Original meaning: a piece of money; also a thingummy = random thing.)

Here's a fascinating bit from the OED:
1895 Dial. Notes 1 387 Dingbat. Mr. Philip Hale, of the Boston Journal, has been collecting information..concerning this word. The following definitions appear:—(1) Balls of dung on buttocks of sheep or cattle. (2) Blow or slap on the buttocks. (3) Flying missile. (4) Squabble of words or pushing. (5) Money. (6) In some of the N.E. schools, the word is student slang for various kinds of muffins or biscuit. (7) Affectionate embrace of mothers hugging and kissing their children. (8) Term of admiration. ‘They are regular ding-bats’ (speaking of girls).

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  perfidious: Just ask Archie Bunker what 'dingbat' means.
May-30-13  hedgeh0g: Many a chess player has suffered sleepless nights over that light-squared QGD/Slav bishop. What a tragic piece...
May-30-13  Abdel Irada: <perfidious: Just ask Archie Bunker what 'dingbat' means.>

His ideological successors prefer "moonbat" for the same application (when they call us by no worse name).

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  FSR: <tamar: I bet Ding has been hearing the bad puns since he was Ni Hua to a grasshopper.>

I literally laughed out loud at that one.

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  FSR: <psmith: ... 8) Term of admiration. 'They are regular ding-bats' (speaking of girls).>

I often say that of Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann.

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  kevin86: White will take black's lone king side pawn and will push his two passed pawns to a victory.


May-30-13  hellopolgar: This game is visually pleasing...white played very well.
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  perfidious: <FSR>: As in, the late Michele?

The fool claimed her decision not to seek re-election had nothing to do with the ongoing investigation.


May-30-13  Mudphudder: 35.Nxf6+! was very nice...setting off the cascade of trades.
May-30-13  Nicocobas: <tamar> Please explain your pun.
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  WannaBe: Knee high to a grasshopper

May-30-13  Nicocobas: <WannaBe> Thanks
May-30-13  Nicocobas: <hedgeh0g> What is the Slav's appeal, given its problems with the light-squared bishop?
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  FSR: <Nicocobas: <hedgeh0g> What is the Slav's appeal, given its problems with the light-squared bishop?>

This game features the slightly offbeat Schlechter Variation of the Slav, that is sort of a cross between the Slav and the Grünfeld Defence (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5). Black's bishop, developed on b7 behind pawns on c6 and d5, didn't fare well in this game. But in a lot of other, more popular variations of the Slav, Black's bishop is actively developed on f5 or g4. For example: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 dxc4 5.a4 Bf5, Opening Explorer, and 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 Bf5, Opening Explorer. Lines like these make the Slav more appealing to many players than the "regular" Queen's Gambit Declined, 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6, where Black often has a difficult time developing his queen bishop. Today 2...c6 has supplanted 2...e6 as the most popular and best-scoring response to the Queen's Gambit. Opening Explorer

May-31-13  hedgeh0g: <Nicocobas> <FSR> more or less covered it. The Slav was actually popularised as a means of trying to <avoid> the light-squared bishop problem faced by Black in typical Queen's Gambit positions. Another benefit of playing an early ...c6 is that Black often threatens to take on c4 and follow up with ...b5 to hold onto the pawn.

One drawback to the Slav as opposed to the Queen's Gambit is that the freeing move ...c5 will come at the cost of two tempi as opposed to one.

Jun-01-13  bank2010: Why not 17... e4
Jun-03-13  hellopolgar: <bank2010> Now that wouldn't be a legal move, would it? :p
Jun-04-13  Dr. Funkenstein: this game is annotated here

I always love to see calculation at a high level such as this. When white played 30. Bxh7+ he had to calculate the temporary exchange sac after the queen trade including the fantastic 35. Nxf6+! (not just for the move itself, but calculating that 5 moves out is not trivial) that works out to a nice simplifying combo that results in an extra passed pawn with the h pawn dropping soon after to create a pair of passers.

If Black doesn't play 34. ...Ne5 then white wins back the exchange anyway with 35. Nxf6 threatening mate. I think white had to see all that at move 30 before taking on h7.

Jun-05-13  hellopolgar: <al wazir: Was there some tactical reason why white didn't play the immediate 45. Rh8 ?> This is my guess: after 45. Ra8 Bb7, black's rook is shut down by its own bishop, so black is denied any counter play, even if there wasn't any to begin with! It is a typical human move in a completely winning position.
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