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Boris Gelfand vs Magnus Carlsen
Tal Memorial (2013), Moscow RUS, rd 6, Jun-19
Queen's Gambit Declined: Barmen Variation (D37)  ·  1/2-1/2



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  tamar: 56 Kd6 Ne4+ 57 Ke5 Nxd5 is the trick

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Whichever knight White captures the other forks him.

Jun-19-13  brankat: It is :-)
Jun-19-13  MindCtrol9: I think Carlsen knows Gelfand really well.This game was maneuvering with minor pieces and saved the game meaning that Carlsen confuses him that way.
Jun-19-13  messachess: Lots of pressure on CarJack by mad man Moro. (You like?)
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  Gypsy: <tamar> The <56.Kd6? Ne4+> is a sweet trick. Alas, 56.Kd6 is not that attractive in the first place, as even 56...Nf7+(?) holds the draw by perpetual.
Jun-19-13  talisman: thanks chessgames.............
Jun-19-13  lost in space: Good and nice game.

And once again Carlsen found a way to activate his bad Bishop on b7 via c8-d7-e8-f7-e6-g8 and finally Bxd5. Pf7-f6 was the key move to achieve this. Sound like a method from the French defense.

Jun-19-13  Tiggler: Pretty solid defense by Carlsen. He seems to have recovered his poise after that weak game against Caruana.
Jun-19-13  DcGentle: <Tiggler>: True, but don't forget that Gelfand missed <40. f5>, a clear winning chance. Any engine can tell you how to do it, I guess. ;-)
Jun-19-13  messachess: OK. We can move over now to the Moro CarJack game?
Jun-19-13  kb2ct: .

<ost in space.>

Carlsen actually ended up with the better bishop once Gelfand missed his Pf5 shot.

All in all, not a bad game.


Jun-19-13  DcGentle: <kb2ct>: Nice to see you alive and kicking, <kb2ct> :-)
Jun-19-13  kb2ct:


Thanks. Good to see you as ell.


Jun-19-13  Dr Tsycho: <tpstar: <> Thanks for the live broadcast. =) Does anyone know how Nakamura did?!>

Hahaha! Very very great trolling by tpstar yes? He teech Carlson fanboys big lesson yes? Lern from master boys and girls if want troll on! :) :) :) First pat admin on shoulder by sya something nice and inosent. Then be very very subtle when aganize you target! Hahaha! This be trolling master class and I admaier his inormus skill. Welcome him into you heart with love evryone!!! Make thing better without make it werse! :) :) :)

Jun-19-13  TheSlid: Hmm - I've not been here (on the site, that is) for quite a long time. Is this strange post from our friend the Doctor representative of a great leaps forward in the quality of debate that I have been missing out on?

Just asking, like.

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  tamar: Neither Gelfand nor Carlsen thought 40 f5 would necessarily win. Carlsen suggested 40 f5 exf5 41 Bb3 fxg4 42 hxg4 Be6 with no big problems.

But after 40 f5 exf5 41 Nxf5+ Nxf5 42 gxf5 Bg8 43 Bb3 Kd6

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White can play 44 e4

I think when Carlsen sees this after the game, he will reevaluate his play, in that he allowed a lost position to occur while trying to keep play going.

Jun-19-13  Dr Tsycho: <a great leaps forward in the quality of debate>

Debate??? Hahaha! Doctors not bother with debate. We observe and make appropriat diegnose and start treetment! :) :) :) Smiles evryone!!!

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  tpstar: <Is this strange post from our friend the Doctor representative of a great leap forward in the quality of debate that I have been missing out on?>


Go Carlsen.

Jun-19-13  Dr Tsycho: Well well well :)
Jun-20-13  TheSlid: Carlsen has been the future of chess for a long time now, as those of old enough to remember when he was "the kid" will recall. That much has not changed. He has actually turned out to be much stronger, relatively speaking, than could have been predicted a few years back.
Jun-20-13  MarkFinan: Every
now and again in sport, music, the arts, politics, a genius comes along.. Chess has had 3 in the 20th century, and one this century, step forward young Carlsen! Tennis fans are spoiled in that respect too right now.. Anyway Mr/Miss Slid, ask you know who who he means when he says "the clowns"? Please? Get him to type it out?
Jun-21-13  TheSlid: Hi <MarkFinan> I'm almost certain I'm Mr Slid. Miss Slid would be one or other of my two daughters, I guess. My short profile has been essentially the same for many years and illustrates my fundamental dullness quite neatly.

Intrigued now by the 3 20th century geniuses comment.

Do you go Capablance / Alekhine / Tal?

Or maybe Fischer / Karpov / Kasparov?

Or even Reti / Nimzovitch / Petrosian?

Let us know!

Jun-21-13  brankat: This makes it 9, and there are still a few missing from the list.
Jun-21-13  MarkFinan: Well
in my humble opinion Mr Slid, i think it goes
Capablanca/Fischer/Kasparov.. But reverse order in the greatest ever sense! Not forgetting NN and AJ ;)
Jun-22-13  TheSlid: And Z. Grofulus could have been the greatest of all, if he ever showed up.

But that's another story.

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