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Shakhriyar Mamedyarov vs Gata Kamsky
World Cup (2013), Tromso NOR, rd 4, Aug-21
Gruenfeld Defense: Three Knights Variation (D90)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Aug-21-13  Tomlinsky: <perfidious: My deck got shuffled in bizarre fashion: played QGDs and Nimzo/QID early at master level, then resorted to Dutch, Modern Benoni and Gruenfeld late.>

That's a bit of a shocker. I had you down as one of the saner members of this site.

Aug-21-13  DcGentle: Draw agreed.
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  perfidious: <Tomlinsky>: My game page gives a taste of what went in those later years.

As for this game, appears to me that once the pawn at e5 comes off (after eg 33.Kxc3 Qa5+), Black's worries are over.

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  tpstar: <> Thanks for the live broadcast. =)

Wow, Kamsky survives the time pressure cliff.

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  OhioChessFan: I'd have lost either side of this. Very impressive.
Aug-21-13  DcGentle: So Kamsky made it in the end. Mamedyarov must be disappointed. His preparation was thwarted.
Aug-21-13  haydn20: As a registered patzer, I don't see why black doesn't just "put the question to" this whole line by 7...Nxh5. Other than that, Kamsky must have balls of steel to play a line like this when he needs only a draw. I can't believe he knew these horrific complications would peter out to =.
Aug-21-13  parmetd: and thats why Gata is my chess hero. Woo!
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  chancho: The spirit of Reshevsky lives.

Congrats Gata!

Aug-21-13  chessdgc2: That was a nail-biting draw and Kamsky got his way!!
Aug-21-13  haydn20: < OhioChessFan: I'd have lost either side of this. Very impressive. > LOL. I would have lost either side, WITH an extra hour on my clock.
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  OhioChessFan: I am glad DarkNolan is back, but I have to wonder what might have been if he'd never left the scene.
Aug-21-13  DcGentle: Fascination of chess, who says that draws are boring? Not this one for sure.
Aug-21-13  talisman: what a game!.....thanks <chessgames!>
Aug-21-13  DcGentle: And White's light squared bishop has not even moved. This is telling. In chess you have to prepare an attack, the forces don't come from nowhere. Here White started the attack in a mad rush. Won't be successful against a coldblooded defense.
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  chancho: <but I have to wonder what might have been if he'd never left the scene.>

Maybe he would have burned out.

His father was getting on his nerves.

His record against Kasparov and Karpov is not that good, yet against Anand, he gave the Indian fits.

Gata's career is still going strong.

Good for him.

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  perfidious: <chancho>: That could very well be.

In those days, while at a far remove from that milieu, heard numerous stories regarding Rustam Kamsky. Difficult to imagine playing at such a level with such an overbearing presence at every turn.

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  LucB: <His father was getting on his nerves>

I'd be interested in reading up on this; is there an online article that could educate me on this?

Aug-21-13  DcGentle: <LucB>: About Kamsky:
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  LucB: Thank you <DcGentle>; I will have a look at this!
Aug-21-13  csmath: This opening (5. h4 "Three knights") Grischuk attempted against Carlsen in London and it is made popular by Morozevich lately as well. Basically it is a maximum attack which is very suitable for folks like Morozevich and Mamedyarov.

Position after 8 moves is similar to Gareev-Robson game in this spring except that Ray Robson had recaptured with f-pawn and lost the game.

Kamsky's either did not analyze this or could not remember but his reaction

12. ...Kg7!?
13. ...c3?!

is new and it is not good.

Mamedyarov plays strange

15. Rc1?!
[why not simply Nxc3 who knows? For example:
15. Nxc3 Rh8
16. Rxh8 Qxh8
17. e5 Ng4
18. d6 Nc6
19. Qd5 Qe8
20. Bb5
with unpleasant pins. This is not forced though but white is clearly better if not winning already]

Leaving c-pawn will become liability later.

22. ... Rb8? [aggressive but Rd8! was stronger immediately attacking the central pawns:

22. ... Rd8
23. Nxf5 gxf5
24. Qh3 Qxh3
25. gxh3 Rxd5
26. f3 Ng3
27. Rxc3 Rxe5+

white is pawn up but white could try to save rooks ending.]

Both players keep on disregarding dangerous passers for the sake of attack, missing chances to win the game.

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  Mating Net: I bet Peter Leko no had such an exciting draw as this one.
Aug-22-13  DcGentle: <csmath>: Well, I wouldn't condemn Kamsky too harshly, he had a plan after pondering <12... Kg7> for a long time. This is no engine move for sure. Black's plan may contain an early exchange of queens, for example in your line after <17. e5> Black can play <17... Nd7 18. Qd2 (targeting f4) Qh6.> Now White can hardly avoid swapping queens and his attack is severely weakened.

White has no easy way to win here.

May-18-14  kereru: "I shouldn't play like this. I'm old person I should be playing normal solid chess." - Kamsky after this game.

By the way 23...Rb2!! is one of the gutsiest moves I've ever seen.

May-18-14  RookFile: But, he knows that if you play some solid, stodgy defense against a guy like this, he just spends the whole day pounding on you. Better to take your chances like he actually did.
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