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Alexander Morozevich vs Evgeny Tomashevsky
World Cup (2013) (rapid), Tromso NOR, rd 4, Aug-22
Caro-Kann Defense: Exchange Variation (B13)  ·  0-1

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Aug-22-13  hellopolgar: Poor Alexander Morozevich
Aug-22-13  DummyPawn: That was the most exciting game I've ever followed live. Loved the commentary!
Aug-22-13  BlackFront: <Jon Ludvig Hammer ‏@gmjlh 33m

Fantastic fighting from Tomashevsky! Seemed like he had no progress in the queen ending, but he kept on pushing - and was well rewarded!>

Aug-22-13  dumbgai: 88. c4??
Aug-22-13  AgentRgent: <DummyPawn: That was the most exciting game I've ever followed live. Loved the commentary!> I agree! What a game! Amazing!
Aug-22-13  csmath: The question is for Morozevich:

Why did you bother to play 88. c4?

This move shows impatience and imprudence. It is obvious that Tomashevsky has not plan what to do but to manouvre pieces and see if the opponent cracks.

And inexplicably so Morozevich cracks with 88. c4?

The queen ending is difficult to play but it seems Morozevich missed a draw few times there as well.

Aug-22-13  mrbasso: Yeah sure, why did he play c4? Just play
Rd3,Re3 indefinitely. How to make progress?
There is no idea.
Of course white still had a draw later on
but Qeen endings in time trouble are _very_ difficult.
Aug-22-13
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  Jimfromprovidence: This is one of the best games I have ever seen played.

This is so because there are mostly incredibly precise decisions made by both sides for so many moves considering the time constraints and the stakes at hand.

So where is the discussion/analysis over the ultimate losing move, which appears to be 143 Kg7?!

Better is 143 Qf7+, forcing 143...Kg4 then 144 Qa2!

I don't believe that black can win from here, as white's passed pawn is protected and black's h pawn route to promotion is compromised.


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Aug-23-13
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  whiteshark: This is waterboarding on the chess board.
Aug-23-13  positionalgenius: What an epic game!
Aug-23-13  csmath: <This is one of the best games I have ever seen played.>

????

I guess I should get used to this stuff on cg.com already.

Aug-23-13  onigorom: I ve read this has a record number of moves in a certain regard (tournament & rapid?). Does anybody know?
Aug-23-13
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  whiteshark: <onigorom> So far (after 4 rounds) the longest game (out of seven 100+ movers) in this tournament: World Cup (2013)
Aug-23-13
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  OhioChessFan: 88. c4......I think Moro was getting engine help and the engine thought he was winning by more than 1.0, so giving up a Pawn in lieu of the 50 move rule being invoked was best.
Aug-24-13  Chessman1504: Quite the game. I find it interesting that Tomashevksy opted for the Caro-Kann in a must-win situation, given its drawish reputation at the higher levels. I also find it puzzling because, according to this database, he has rarely used the Caro-Kann. Of course, this database is hardly complete :-)
Feb-17-14  EGarrett: ChessBomb's coverage of this game is located here...

http://chessbomb.com/o/2013-worldcu...

Feb-17-14  EGarrett: To csmath,

There are many things that might make a game great to someone. You seem to be trying to define it strictly as a feat of impressive calculation. But there are also things like determination and fighting spirit.

Someone could easily view this game as great within that context. Don't be so quick to insult others.

Nov-23-14  Martin Riggs: Definitely 1 of the best games of 2013! Great struggle! :)
Feb-21-15  Whitehat1963: What? No analysis? Come on, somebody break out Houdini and give us all the best variations.
Aug-02-15  dusk: This is said to be the longest decisive game, by Penguincw. I do seem to recall a decisive Nakamura vs computer game that was very long as well, though.
Aug-02-15
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  Penguincw: < dusk: This is said to be the longest decisive game, by Penguincw. I do seem to recall a decisive Nakamura vs computer game that was very long as well, though. >

I don't quite remember saying that this game is the longest decisive game <ever>.

Perhaps you misquoted me here: Jonny vs Komodo, 2015 (kibitz #32).

< One thing I forgot to mention: this is currently the 2nd longest game in the <cg> database played in 2015. It is one move short of M Vachier-Lagrave vs Ponomariov, 2015.

Also longest decisive game since Morozevich vs Tomashevsky, 2013. >

Key word, <since>. That Jonny - Komodo game was a decisive game lasting 158 moves. The last game to be decisive (and last that long) was this Morozevich - Tomashevsky game.

If that's the case, well, no harm done, really. :)

Of course, if I said something else, please mention it.

Aug-02-15
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  Penguincw: (sorry, forgot to mention this, should've put it in the first post)

FWIW: <This> is the longest decisive game in the database. Rybka vs Nakamura, 2008 (271 moves).

Also 2nd longest overall game, 2nd to another Rybka - Nakamura game (Rybka vs Nakamura, 2007, drawn in 275 moves).

Aug-02-15  Xeroxx: Oh I remember I watched this game live.
Aug-04-15  dusk: <Penguincw> Thank you for the correction, a timeline beginning from a random spot seems a little weird though. Does the 2013 game have anything special? I am asking for that <since> thing.
Aug-04-15
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  Penguincw: < dusk: <Penguincw> Thank you for the correction, a timeline beginning from a random spot seems a little weird though. Does the 2013 game have anything special? I am asking for that <since> thing. >

The Jonny - Komodo game was a <decisive game lasting 158+ moves>. Let's have a look at other games that fit that criteria.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...

The last time that happened (before the computer vs. computer game) was well, this game, played in August of 2013 (the other 2013 game was played in June).

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