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Maxime Vachier-Lagrave vs Vladimir Kramnik
World Cup (2013) (rapid), Tromso NOR, rd 6, Aug-28
Scotch Game: Malaniuk Variation (C45)  ·  0-1

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Aug-28-13
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  HeMateMe: Geeez, doesn't even look like a grandmaster game. A tough moment for MVL.
Aug-28-13  psmith: <haydn20> After 17...Ng4 18. Bf4, how is Black winning again?
Aug-28-13  Marmot PFL: <It would have been better for Lagrave to have lost that ending in game two yesterday than to be embarrassed like what happened in this game.>

The draw yesterday was enough to pass Giri and move MVL into the Top 15 (2745).

Tomashevsky also gained enough points to move into the top 30 (2720), and Kramnik moves up to 2795 though he doesn't gain any places (would need to sweep Andreikin to pass 2800).

Andreikin wins only rapid and blitz games, so remains at #40 (2707).

Aug-28-13  John Abraham: MVL's time will come, he is a very talented "young" player who has plenty of time to demonstrate his capabilities (I say "young" because he is the same age as Magnus Carlsen, who is relatively young but of course in chess years he is already a very experienced veteran).
Aug-28-13
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  patzer2: Good analysis of this game today at http://chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211....

Apparently 7. Bd3 is a rarely played move, trying to steer away from Black's preparation for 7. Qg4 (the most popular move), 7. Bc4 or 7. Nf5.

Though 7. Bd3 is certainly not the reason for White's defeat, it doesn't cause Black any difficulty equalizing.

The Chess Base analysis indicates White started to get in trouble with 17. Re4?! (17. Ne4 = is better), and worsened the position with 18. Be2?!

Fritz 12 indicates 18. Be2?!, driving the Queen to 18. Qg6! , is the losing move. Better here is 18. Rf4= or 18. Ne2 =.

The Chess Base analysis notes 21. Rh4? is the decisive mistake, and observes 21. Rf4 "holds on" but "White's position is obviously worse."

After 21. Rf4 Bc2 22. Bh5 Bxd1 23. Bxg6 fxg6 24. Nxd1 Rxf4 25. Bxf4 Nxc4 , Black is a pawn down but still holding on with some hope for a draw.

The winning 21...Bc2! might be a good choice for a Tuesday or Wednesday puzzle. After 21...Bc2! 22. Qe2 Bd3 23. Qd1 Bxf1 Kxf1 , White has no compensation for the loss of the exchange.

Aug-28-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: MVL's glasses sort of make him look like a super villain, from a 1960s film. Maybe the criminal mastermind in a Bond flick, with Sean Connery?
Aug-28-13  Illogic: A note from watching the archived broadcast. Kramnik played Nxf3 INSTANTLY, so he had already looked at Qxc2 as a possible try
Aug-28-13  Maatalkko: Oh man, what a foul up this was. It's really surprising how bad the normal looking moves 16. Re4?! and 17. Be2?! turn out to be.

I doubt that 7. Bd3 was a deeply prepared novelty. This was MVL's first Scotch, so it probably surprised Kramnik at little, but he responded to the surprise with the less common move 4...Bb4+, and Maxime found himself unprepared.

If the Scotch was a "snap" decision on Maxime's part, it really backfired. He was much better off sticking to familiar ground.

Aug-28-13  notyetagm: M Vachier-Lagrave vs Kramnik, 2013

http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId...

<patzer2: ... The Chess Base analysis indicates White started to get in trouble with <<<17. Re4?! (17. Ne4 = is better)>>>, and worsened the position with <<<18. Be2?!>>> >

17 ♖e1-e4?! was -terrible- : why would you <EXPOSE> your rook like that unless you had calculated a <FORCING LINE> to <TRAP> the Black queen?

<Fritz 12 indicates <<<18. Be2?!>>>, driving the Queen to 18. Qg6! , is the losing move. Better here is 18. Rf4= or 18. Ne2 =.>

Yes, 18 ♗d3-e2?! just drives the Black queen onto a -very- dangerous square on g6, creating an <ABSOLUTE PIN> against the White g1-king. Kramnik then used this <ALIGNMENT> twice, to create the <SNEAKY PINS> 19 ... ♗c8-h3! and 22 ... ♘e5x♗f3+! 0-1.

<The Chess Base analysis notes <<<21. Rh4?>>> is the decisive mistake, and observes 21. Rf4 "holds on" but "White's position is obviously worse." >

I didn't understand that move either. 21 ♖e4-f4 at least <PROTECTS> the precariously-placed White f3-bishop, whereas 21 ♖e4-h4? does not.

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<csmath> was absolutely correct: MVL's play from 17 ♖e1-e4?! to 18 ♗d3-e2?! and ending with 21 ♖e4-h4? was atrocious(!).

The most important game in MVL's young career and this is the absolute worst I have -ever- seen him play.

:-(

Aug-28-13  notyetagm: M Vachier-Lagrave vs Kramnik, 2013

I am just so disappointed in MVL's play here: -horrid- <POSITIONAL PLAY> 17 ♖e1-e4?!, 18 ♗d3-e2?!, and 21 ♖e4-h4? capped with an -unbelievable- <TACTICAL OVERSIGHT> 22 ♕d1x♗c2?? ♘e5x♗f3+! 0-1.

:-(

Aug-28-13  notyetagm: M Vachier-Lagrave vs Kramnik, 2013

<Illogic: A note from watching the archived broadcast. <<<Kramnik played Nxf3 INSTANTLY>>>, so he had already looked at Qxc2 as a possible try>

Why would Kramnik not take a <FREE PIECE> <WITH CHECK> instantly?

:-)

Aug-28-13  notyetagm: M Vachier-Lagrave vs Kramnik, 2013

21 ... ?


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21 ... ♗f5-c2! <attack defender: d1-queen of f3-bishop>


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<patzer2: ... The winning <<<21...Bc2!>>> might be a good choice for a Tuesday or Wednesday puzzle. After <<<21...Bc2! 22. Qe2 Bd3 23. Qd1 Bxf1 Kxf1>>> , White has no compensation for the loss of the exchange.>

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22 ♕d1-e2 ♗c2-d3 <attack defender, skewer>


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23 ♕e2-d1 ♗d3x♖f1 <up exchange>


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Game Collection: THE UNDERRATED REMOVAL OF THE GUARD -- HEISMAN 21 ... Bf5-c2! attacks d1-queen of f3-bishop, winning exchange

Aug-28-13  notyetagm: M Vachier-Lagrave vs Kramnik, 2013

21 ... ?


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21 ... ♗f5-c2! <attack defender: d1-queen of f3-bishop>


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<"The logic <<<“a guarded piece (White f3-bishop by White d1-queen due to <SNEAKY PIN>) is not really guarded if the guard (White d1-queen) can be taken or attacked (21 ... Bf5-c2!)”>>> is not emphasized in most beginner’s books.">

-- NM Dan Heisman

Aug-28-13  notyetagm: M Vachier-Lagrave vs Kramnik, 2013

Game Collection: THE UNDERRATED REMOVAL OF THE GUARD -- HEISMAN 21 ... Bf5-c2! attacks d1-queen of f3-bishop, winning exchange

Aug-28-13  Maatalkko: <notyetagm: The most important game in MVL's young career and this is the absolute worst I have -ever- seen him play.

:-(>

Don't get too down on him. Kramnik is tough, and he still had an excellent tournament. 17. Re4?! is a normal move in similar looking Marshall Attack positions, so as far as missteps go it is understandable. Given that Max had only used 6 minutes at resign time, he didn't fully think it through.

I think his more fundamental error was trying to "surprise" a more experienced opponent with a brand new opening on short notice. Bobby Fischer could do this, but he was an exception to most things.

This tournament was a breakthrough for MVL in terms of form, Elo, and world rank. Realizing Maxime's enormous potential is an ongoing challenge that requires more work, regardless of this game's outcome. Even if it cost him a Candidates ticket, this rapid playoff is not a career changer.

Aug-28-13  notyetagm: M Vachier-Lagrave vs Kramnik, 2013

<Maatalkko: ... This tournament was a breakthrough for MVL in terms of form, Elo, and world rank.>

Yes, but most people are going to remember only 22 ♕d1x♗c2?? when it counted the most.

MVL violated one of the most -basic- rules of chess: if you are trying to do something flashy (21 ♕d1x♗c2?? ♕g6x♕c2 22 ♗f3-e4), first make sure you have not overlooked something so obvious that even an absolute beginner could see it (21 ♕d1x♗c2?? ♘e5x♗f3+! 0-1).

:-(

Aug-28-13  Fanques Fair: After 1- e4 , e5 , it seems no one dares to play a Ruy Lopez against Kramnik, fearing the Berlin Wall. ( Maybe it´d be worth trying 3-Bb5, Nf6 , 4- d3) The scotch doesn´t give a real chance to develop an opening advantage against the mighty former World Champion . This white colapse is result, besides miscalculation, of the iminent loss of initiative ; after 16 ... , Ne5 , White has absolutely no advantage, as Black's pieces develop with the gain of tempo. 17- Re4 is apparentely agressive, but in fact, miscoordinates White´s pieces , and the Black´s Queen is able not only to defend Black´s King but also to create threats against the opposed King. After 21 - ... , Bc2 ! , 22- Be4 ( Qe2 loses the exchange after Bd3), Bx e4, 23- Nxe4 , White is alright, so best seems 22 - ..., Bxd1, 23- Bxg6 , Nxg6, 24- Rh3, Bc2, Black has the 2 bishops and the initiative, but it was possible to resist.
Aug-28-13  haydn20: < psmith: <haydn20> After 17...Ng4 18. Bf4, how is Black winning again? > Well, I did say "may". My point was that with 17...Ng4 18. Bf4 f5 19. Bg3 Qh6 Black has at least the initiative, while 17...Qh5 18. Rf4 is quite equal.
Aug-28-13  paramount: lololol....Lagrave to the GRAVE.

Such a reckless game by him.

Aug-29-13  haydn20: < Fanques Fair: ...After 21 - ... , Bc2 ! , 22- Be4 ( Qe2 loses the exchange after Bd3), Bx e4, 23- Nxe4 , White is alright, so best seems 22 - ..., Bxd1, 23- Bxg6 , Nxg6, 24- Rh3, Bc2, Black has the 2 bishops and the initiative, but it was possible to resist.> The threats of N-e5-d3 and Bf4 spell doom I think, and White is a piece down in any case, as well as defenseless on the light squares.
Aug-29-13  haydn20: <patzer2: After 21. Rf4 Bc2 22. Bh5 Bxd1 23. Bxg6 fxg6 24. Nxd1 Rxf4 25. Bxf4 Nxc4 , Black is a pawn down but still holding on with some hope for a draw. > Just 24...Nxf4 and White remains down the ex.
Aug-29-13  haydn20: I meant 23...Nxg6 then 24...Nxf4 OC.
Sep-01-13  MarkFinan: Even at rapid time controls you dont expect a GM, a top GM at that, to play this badly.
Sep-03-13
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  offramp: #

Maximum Vachement-Serieux,
Il a rongé les poudreux.

© Offramp MMXIII

Apr-25-14  1d410: This game should be called "the art of winning ugly"
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